Rumor: Aaron Rodgers reached out to the Giants

[files58]

I'm sure most if not all of us have heard of "suicide by cops" where some poor schmuck forces cops to shoot him/her. Along that line of thinking why would Rodgers consider "suicide by offensive line"?

[Trench]

To clarify, I said "as well as or better." And I just said I felt that way, as in it's my opinion. Not sure what the "absolute" part is about.

The Jets went nowhere last year, and they have more talent on that roster than we do. Yes, they had poor coaching. Do we have great coaching?

In any event, I honestly don't really care that much which veteran QB we sign (if we do that at all), as long as it's not to some albatross contract. We're not going to be a contender next year. That is painfully obvious to anyone not wearing blue goggles. If it's Rodgers, that's fine. If it's Wilson, that's also fine. I'm fine with Fields too. Anyone that we're not going to be tied down to. Just don't do the Stafford trade. We can't be forfeiting high draft picks right now.

Understood, my apologies as I read it as an absolute.

The point I was trying to impress upon (and I'm not a big Rodgers fan as compared to Stafford or even Cousins), was just 1 season removed from the year he missed, most on this board felt he was still pro bowl top tier caliber. I just don't think a guy loses it that fast. I could be wrong though. My big thing is I wanna see a gunslinger who wil throw downfield to Hyatt, Nabers, and Theo.

One thing which concerns me is I felt Rodgers did way more checkdowns this past season than ever before

[Jclayton92]

Oh guaranteed is he? What happened in his first year with the Jets? And now he's a year older.

"Additional media" is not what I'm talking about when I say the circus and you know it. It's everything Rodgers brings to the team especially when he's not happy, like when Hackett's not around. Is he going to ask the Giants to hire him? Who knows. My sense is that he'll have limited options, which might short circuit some of these demands but I expect him to try.

In every year he's been healthy, yes, he's a guaranteed 4,000 30/10 guy.

How do you know that was on Rodgers? No one knows if the Jets brought Hackett in to save the former hcs job. If he's throwing for more production than we've seen in a decade, and we are winning are you really going to be upset at a few interviews?

It's wild at least to me that as a fan base so many get up in arms about guys riding 4 wheelers on vacation, wrs going to night clubs/concerts, or saying something on a podcast etc... who cares, I could care less what these guys do or say in their free time if they play well on Sundays because at the end of the day it's none of my business.

[Stringer Bell]

I don't particularly want Rodgers either. I feel we can likely do as well or better for less money. My point was more to illustrate how strongly against trading away quality picks and handing out a huge contract to a 37 year old Stafford I am.

Believe me, I get it. I posted recently a willingness to overpay Darnold on a high AAV 2-year deal (allowing him to hit FA again in his 20s) if it meant not drafting a QB in the first round this year. So I'm with you on creative ways to keep us from making dumb decisions.

But in no way, shape, or form do I want Rodgers anywhere near this team. I would without doubt not watch a single game with him at QB. He's that much of a dbag to me.

[DaveBrown74]

Understood, my apologies as I read it as an absolute.

The point I was trying to impress upon (and I'm not a big Rodgers fan as compared to Stafford or even Cousins), was just 1 season removed from the year he missed, most on this board felt he was still pro bowl top tier caliber. I just don't think a guy loses it that fast. I could be wrong though. My big thing is I wanna see a gunslinger who wil throw downfield to Hyatt, Nabers, and Theo.

One thing which concerns me is I felt Rodgers did way more checkdowns this past season than ever before

Fair enough, and I get where you're coming from.

Rodgers had a 6.7 YPA last year. I believe that's a telling metric. For context, Daniel Jones' career YPA is 6.5, so 2024 Rodgers was not much different than that. He had an elite talent at receiver in Garrett Wilson, his long time favorite receiver in Davante Admams, an elite talent at RB in Breece Hall, and further, he was allowed to bring over basically anyone he wanted when he came to the Jets, including Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb, and whoever else. He was also able to pick whatever coordinator he wanted, which he did. He had no excuses.

I won't say Rodgers was bad last year, because 28 TDs and 11 picks with just under 4k yards is good by any measure, but he wasn't an efficient QB despite having good players in that offense. He turns 42 this year. Unless your last name is Brady, once you're 38 or so, every year matters significantly. He wasn't very good in Green Bay in 2022, he was out all year in 2023, and he wasn't all that great last year (albeit I understand he put up solid yardage and TD totals).

Again though, if that's the direction the Giants want to go for one year, I don't have a problem with it. I understand some have personal issues with him, and I get that. I know there aren't many other options in the veteran free agent market though, and the draft situation is highly suspect (although I wouldn't mind them taking a day two QB if they sign a vet to a one year deal). So if the Giants give him a one year deal, I can live with that. And yes, it can only be a one year deal. Not a two year with a year two out where we still have to eat some dead cap. I don't want to lose a penny in 2026 cutting a guy who be turning 43 that year. That's a no go for me. The guy is ancient.

[katkavage]

It's truly pathetic that they've put themselves in this situation. Just sign Winston, Cousins or Fields and draft a QB. Either way it's the Bears all over. They (Schoen and Daboll) will both be gone around Thanksgiving.

[DaveBrown74]

Believe me, I get it. I posted recently a willingness to overpay Darnold on a high AAV 2-year deal (allowing him to hit FA again in his 20s) if it meant not drafting a QB in the first round this year. So I'm with you on creative ways to keep us from making dumb decisions.

But in no way, shape, or form do I want Rodgers anywhere near this team. I would without doubt not watch a single game with him at QB. He's that much of a dbag to me.

Understood, and I respect your view. He's not personally my cup of tea either.

I would suggest though that on all 32 teams there will probably be, at the absolute minimum, one or two individuals that you would personally dislike. I can all but guarantee that. The NFL has some less than savory individuals. That includes coaching staffs too btw.

I understand that if a QB is a dbag, that's a bigger problem than if some backup guard is. Totally get that.

[Trench]

Fair enough, and I get where you're coming from.

Rodgers had a 6.7 YPA last year. I believe that's a telling metric. For context, Daniel Jones' career YPA is 6.5, so 2024 Rodgers was not much different than that. He had an elite talent at receiver in Garrett Wilson, his long time favorite receiver in Davante Admams, an elite talent at RB in Breece Hall, and further, he was allowed to bring over basically anyone he wanted when he came to the Jets, including Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb, and whoever else. He was also able to pick whatever coordinator he wanted, which he did. He had no excuses.

I won't say Rodgers was bad last year, because 28 TDs and 11 picks with just under 4k yards is good by any measure, but he wasn't an efficient QB despite having good players in that offense. He turns 42 this year. Unless your last name is Brady, once you're 38 or so, every year matters significantly. He wasn't very good in Green Bay in 2022, he was out all year in 2023, and he wasn't all that great last year (albeit I understand he put up solid yardage and TD totals).

Again though, if that's the direction the Giants want to go for one year, I don't have a problem with it. I understand some have personal issues with him, and I get that. I know there aren't many other options in the veteran free agent market though, and the draft situation is highly suspect (although I wouldn't mind them taking a day two QB if they sign a vet to a one year deal). So if the Giants give him a one year deal, I can live with that. And yes, it can only be a one year deal. Not a two year with a year two out where we still have to eat some dead cap. I don't want to lose a penny in 2026 cutting a guy who be turning 43 that year. That's a no go for me. The guy is ancient.

You eloquently stated stats which I was concern about with regard to Rodgers - dink n dunk. I don't expect that from him but it was evident all year. Perhaps you're right let's stay away from him.

I want a gunslinging vet

[sooners56]

Almost 4,000 yards passing, 28 TDs against 11 INT, if the Giants can get that production from Rodgers, sign me up!

[ViewFromSection129]

Not my preferred option,  but better than giving up draft capital for Stafford. The Giants aren't going to be good next year regardless.  As long as the giants don't take a QB at third overall or give up draft capital for a QB, I'm pretty much on board for anything.

[DaveBrown74]

I want a gunslinging vet

Jameis Winston may be the closest thing to that as far as available guys go.

He'll never get past Mara though due to the rape accusations and the Uber driver groping incident.

[katkavage]

They are going down the list. That Mara can eliminate anyone based on accusations shows how lost he is.

[SlotCorner]

I'd be on board with Winston. He's good for two or three bonehead decisions per game but he's entertaining. I am on board with drafting Cam Ward if they think he's the guy.

[BlueMoshik]

If they sign Rodgers, I'm pretty much done with this organization.

I'm with you.

[BlueMoshik]

Jameis Winston may be the closest thing to that as far as available guys go.

He'll never get past Mara though due to the rape accusations and the Uber driver groping incident.

What does the saintly Mr. Mara think about a guy lying to his teammates and media about getting vaccinated at the height of the COVID pandemic?