Abdul Carter may require surgery: report

[Stringer Bell]

This doesn't change anything for me, nor do I believe it changes anything for teams drafting in the top 3.

Carter will be a top 3 pick.

[Bob In PA]

The fracture is in his foot, rather than his shoulder

Rich: It was a typo. MY shoulder hurts today. lol

[MightyGiants]

Rich: It was a typo. MY should hurts today. lol

I was going to like your post, but who likes that your shoulder hurts? 

[kartanoman]

And both my knees with screws in each.  My reconstructed ligaments are stabilized however I get periodic swelling and stiffness in both inees and early onset of arthritis in each as well.

On elite athletes who put so much torque onto their feet, ankles, knees, hips and shoulders, injuries with screws can cause chronic problems.

With 3rd pick this makes me shy away from picking Carter.  Drew Rosenhaus will lie through his teeth about how this is not a big deal.  It is to me.

Look at other players with foot or ankle problems.  They are always missing so much time.  Andrew Thomas?

Add this old man (maybe not as old as you fine gentlemen) to the screws in feet list (NOTE: mine held my Achilles tendon in place until they became infected, and I had to deal with osteomyelitis and almost losing the lower part of my left leg ... scary!

The kid is young and "should" bounce back. But feet are funny things. You don't appreciate them until you run into trouble with them and, then, you learn how precious they are.

The one thing folks do not realize is that when you injure your foot, or ankle, or Achilles tendon, and have surgery for it, the end result is that you rarely ever return to your original 100% self. You can do all the rehab in the world to make it strong; however, it won't ever be the same as it was before. Because of that, things happen, perhaps very little, but they do, that impact you for the rest of your life. For example, your gait gets thrown off. If you're young, and everything works out all right, and you rehab and heal up very well the impact is minimal and it likely doesn't affect you all that much, if any. If you're in your mid 40s, or in your 50s, and you have a "quality of life" surgical procedure to remove bone spurs under your Achilles from running too much, laser procedure to counter your Achilles tendinosis, they take off your Achilles to do all that and re-attach it using a couple of patented screws to help the tendon re-bond with the bone. You do all that and, two weeks later, you stand up and the whole things "rips" off, feeling like a gun went off and shot you in your foot, with a pain like you've never felt before in your life, to where you just drop into the fetal position and can only scream for help ... yeah, that is about as bad as it gets, or so I thought, until I watched Alex Smith's plight on the documentary "Project 11."

I'm with you all the way on Andrew Thomas. I wish him all the very best and pray he can find a way to a healthy future. But that foot of his, following that Lisfranc injury, is tough, very tough, to overcome. He'll physically be able to; however, putting that damaged foot, supported by a previously damaged ankle, as well as a previously damaged knee ... you see where I'm going with this. The man is an incredible Left Tackle and is a game changer when he is in the lineup when healthy. But I calculated the numbers already for the board in that he's already missed significant time following his big contract signing. He is damaged goods now and his risk for incurring another injury is higher than ever because the overall strength of his leg has been compromised by knee, ankle and now foot injuries. That's why I've been harping that it might not be a bad idea to consider grabbing his future replacement in this draft.

But, back to Carter, the crux is surgery vs. rest coming down to a timing/decision issue for teams in the running for his services. This is where his medical history comes into play and whether this is a one-off or a chronic condition. If the latter, and surgery is the "best" option to correct the issue and prevent recurrences, then that's the way to go, after ensuring no additional risk would be introduced to the foot by the surgery (NOTE: of course, that's not realistic; however, as close to no risk would be desirable).

The team doctor and other medical consultants would have to sign off on it, of course. With that, let's start the Ronnie Barnes comments!

Peace!

[Sem]

What's a stress reaction? Is it a stress fracture or not? Reaction!!!?!?!
Never heard of that before. I guess MY reaction is stumpified. 

[MightyGiants]

What's a stress reaction? Is it a stress fracture or not? Reaction!!!?!?!
Never heard of that before. I guess MY reaction is stumpified. 

It's essentially a fracture caused by over use.

[Philosophers]

A stress fracture on a football position (Edge) that puts a lot of torque on feet bending around blockers?  I like Carter but that seems like a formula for being out a higher portion of career than I would like in my 3 pick.

[MrGap92]

I would draft him at 3.   He should be ready by the start of training camp and being an edge player there isn't a ton he can benefit from the OTAs he may miss.  The injury should not be long term.

Ronnie Barnes would like a word with you, lol 

[Bob In PA]

I was going to like your post, but who likes that your shoulder hurts? 

Rich: Thanks, but it's nothing serious. It comes and goes. Either bursitis or my imagination. lol

[Sem]

It's essentially a fracture caused by over use.

Yes, I understand that. Then why not call it a stress fracture? My reaction was to "reaction." Sounds to me like they're trying to imply it's less than it is.

[Ed Vette]

Increase his Vitamin D to 4000 IU.

[Topshelf21]

I would draft him at 3.  He should be ready by the start of training camp and being an edge player there isn't a ton he can benefit from the OTAs he may miss.  The injury should not be long term.

I would too.

I've read too many pre draft issues that push a draftee back coupled with "we could of drafted them and reaped the rewards of an overreaction to a player whose main core of work has been completed/done (with or without said injury/behavioral issues etc)".....and then we draft someone like Kadarius Toney, whom will be completely out of the league shortly.

No riskit, no biscuit as former Bucs/cards head coach Bruce Arians used to espouse.

He's worth the risk if he's available at 3.

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[MightyGiants]

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[spiderblue43]

Boy. ..he's a star .it worries me ..but ..but that guy has all pro talent every year..I will be okay with it .he's a massive man

[spiderblue43]

Total impact guy .Giants have won championships with defense..and terror from guys like him..look what the Eagles did to KC. Varsity vs JV