Combine Rumor Involving Giants

[Jclayton92]

If we are looking to just tank next season then, by all means, sign Rodgers. He couldn't play behind the Jets OL so what makes anyone think he can play behind ours?

He virtually had 4,000 30/10 this past season with said jets, in what ppl seem to think was a horrible season. Jones never even dreamt of 4,000 yards or 30 tds. If we had Rodgers 4,000 30/10 this past season we're easily a 500 team.

[Ed Vette]

He virtually had 4,000 30/10 this past season with said jets, in what ppl seem to think was a horrible season. Jones never even dreamt of 4,000 yards or 30 tds. If we had Rodgers 4,000 30/10 this past season we're easily a 500 team.

He was 2-6 the last 8 games. He was streaky and had 4 TD's the last game, two games with none and two with 1, those last eight games. That team should have at least been .500 or better. For what he was paid and for how they accommodated him, he produced no better than 2022 DJ with rushing.

He's not mentoring anyone. He's all about himself. Another narcissist who drags everyone down in his wake. And I don't hate him. Lol

[GloryDays]

With so many needs, trading away valuable draft capital anytime, imo, let alone to get a questionable prospect would be so stupid!!
 Strengthen your draft by trading back and then pick Dart, plus 2-3 extra potential starters... that would lessen the impact of the gamble, which they all are, in case he does not pan out.

[MightyGiants]

3.  New York Giants:
Comment on these NFL Rumors
 The Giants prefer Abdul Carter over Travis Hunter. – Charlie Campbell, WalterFootball.com

It appears as though Carter would be the pick if the draft were today, in the event that the Giants pass on a quarterback. They have a bigger need at cornerback, however.


 The Giants have shifted their focus to Aaron Rodgers. – Dianna Marie Russini, The Athletic

With Matthew Stafford going back to the Rams, the Giants are getting desperate. They'd be better off tanking.


 The Giants prefer Cam Ward over Shedeur Sanders. – Charlie Campbell, WalterFootball.com

The Giants are reportedly not smitten with either quarterback, but they like Ward over Sanders because of the greater upside.


 The Giants have their sights set on Shedeur Sanders. – Jordan Ranaan, ESPN

New York may have to trade up for Sanders, as other quarterback-needy teams may be interested as well.

https://walterfootball.com/NFLRumorsTeamDraft2025.php

[Philosophers]

3.  New York Giants:
Comment on these NFL Rumors
 The Giants prefer Abdul Carter over Travis Hunter. – Charlie Campbell, WalterFootball.com

It appears as though Carter would be the pick if the draft were today, in the event that the Giants pass on a quarterback. They have a bigger need at cornerback, however.


 The Giants have shifted their focus to Aaron Rodgers. – Dianna Marie Russini, The Athletic

With Matthew Stafford going back to the Rams, the Giants are getting desperate. They'd be better off tanking.


 The Giants prefer Cam Ward over Shedeur Sanders. – Charlie Campbell, WalterFootball.com

The Giants are reportedly not smitten with either quarterback, but they like Ward over Sanders because of the greater upside.


 The Giants have their sights set on Shedeur Sanders. – Jordan Ranaan, ESPN

New York may have to trade up for Sanders, as other quarterback-needy teams may be interested as well.

https://walterfootball.com/NFLRumorsTeamDraft2025.php

Love the consistent messaging.   

[VanPelt]

3.  New York Giants:
Comment on these NFL Rumors
 The Giants prefer Abdul Carter over Travis Hunter. – Charlie Campbell, WalterFootball.com

It appears as though Carter would be the pick if the draft were today, in the event that the Giants pass on a quarterback. They have a bigger need at cornerback, however.


 The Giants have shifted their focus to Aaron Rodgers. – Dianna Marie Russini, The Athletic

With Matthew Stafford going back to the Rams, the Giants are getting desperate. They'd be better off tanking.


 The Giants prefer Cam Ward over Shedeur Sanders. – Charlie Campbell, WalterFootball.com

The Giants are reportedly not smitten with either quarterback, but they like Ward over Sanders because of the greater upside.


 The Giants have their sights set on Shedeur Sanders. – Jordan Ranaan, ESPN

New York may have to trade up for Sanders, as other quarterback-needy teams may be interested as well.

https://walterfootball.com/NFLRumorsTeamDraft2025.php

Well that clears everything up

[Just_jimmy]

There is no QB in this draft worthy of a #3 overall. If they panic because they believe that they NEED Ward or Sanders and give up more picks to jump two spots...that should be the end of them.

Tish where are you?!! Speak up!!

There is.  What you're confusing it with is that you (and the rest of us tbf) don't know which of the QB will show to be worth it.

Fact is, every draft turns out at least one QB that would have be worthy of a top 3 pick. That's not always the ones taken top 3 but there's always one QB that play above what was expected or predicted.

Simple fact is, we don't have a QB. We need a QB. Until we get one, we'll not be competitive regardless of the talent we have, so it's worth the risk.

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[Gman329]

If the idea is to get Rodgers as a bridge and draft a QB to sit and learn under him, could there be a worse potential mentor than Aaron effing Rodgers?  A total narcissistic a$$hole is going to give a rats azz about a young QB's development or the team? 

[Painter]

In no way, shape, or form can anyone in the Giants organization nor, I dare say its fan base, think of signing Rodgers as anything but a stillborn move. And so, Gettle that idea the hell out of here.

Cheers!

 

[kartanoman]

There is.  What you're confusing it with is that you (and the rest of us tbf) don't know which of the QB will show to be worth it.

Fact is, every draft turns out at least one QB that would have be worthy of a top 3 pick. That's not always the ones taken top 3 but there's always one QB that play above what was expected or predicted.

Simple fact is, we don't have a QB. We need a QB. Until we get one, we'll not be competitive regardless of the talent we have, so it's worth the risk.

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Hi Jimmy.

Generally speaking, I think your point is valid. But I'd add a caveat to it that, in some drafts, the "right team," drafts "the right quarterback" for "THEM" who, in retrospect, makes the proverbial match made in heaven look like that individual should have been drafted much higher.

It doesn't always work out that way, and there are some quarterback athletes whom one could "plug and play" on any team and, if they were the #1 quarterback in a certain draft, and played as such for the team that chose him, one could easily hypothesize he'd be just as effective for other teams as well (e.g. the 49ers' 1979 third round pick, Joe Montana?).

You're right, the Giants need a QB but history has shown that when they have their franchise QB, they are better positioned to focus on building and contending with the big boys in the league. Parcells, Coughlin and even Fassel, after they picked up Collins, had their guy to build around. That said, they also had more stability in the front office which gave them the players they needed to be successful. At the present, there's no quarterback but there's   too many questions with the offensive line to where you honestly have to assess how successful can any quarterback be once Andrew Thomas goes down yet again. It's no longer a question of if and that risk profile is rapidly progressing from yellow to red right now. What IS red, and of great concern, is their depth AND competency of their depth. In other words, if and/or when their starters go down, how much does the line's performance decline when the backups fill in? We already know that answer and it is scary, to say the very least. I hear you, and everyone on this thread, about the need for a QB. But let's get real for a moment. Which scenario presents a greater probability of being achieved should the Giants actively and purposely pursue it: 1. Get a franchise QB who will be able to lead their offense out of their current hole and take them to the top of the league in offensive performance, or, 2. FIX the Offensive Line's issues, once and for all, so that even a nominal rated QB can come in as a bridge option in 2025, and pave the way for the Giants to go get their franchise QB in 2026 where it is expected to have several good players available for the draft?

I do not want to see this team make a move out of desparation. I would rather see smart, calculated moves that may not be sexy, but produce tangible upgrades in talent which actually close the gap between them and their Division Rivals. Anything short of that and they fall further into the depths of the abyss and, at that point, everything gets blown up and we mutter to ourselves for yet another two decades of wasted fandom.

I want the QB as well but my eyes and heart just do not see that player for 2025. So, go get the best players available to improve the team elsewhere. Then, go get your guy next year.

Worry about Schoen and Daboll's jobs? Nonsense! If they are honest with themselves, they know they don't have a team ready for potty training, much less contend with anyone in their own division. It's time get real and time to go back to the basics. Step one, get better players who are trainable to be better than your opponents, week in and week out. Let's just start there and we can go to the next step once they've demonstrated competency with that.

No QB they sign this year is going to overcome that, I'm afraid.

Peace!

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/nflevals/status/1896263675734089729

[Jclayton92]

Dallas is looking to trade Treyvon Diggs

Eagles trying to acquire Myles Garrett

Dallas trying to trade for Cooper kupp

[Gmo11]

Well that clears everything up

I'll say this if nothing else:  If we have no idea what the hell the Giants are thinking I imagine a lot of teams around the league don't either.  Long gone are the days of Gettleman telling anybody who will listen he wanted Davonte Smith so the Eagles could jump them for him leaving him without any semblance of a backup plan. 

Personally I want absolutely no part of Rodgers.  This is a selling your soul for MAYBE a couple extra wins type scenario that I would not be comfortable with.  If he were the missing piece of a super bowl caliber team then maybe I'd be more open to it (though I doubt it) but that's not what we're talking about here.  Rodgers isn't very good anymore, and he's a loon on top of that.  Does he provide more wins than Ward/Dart/Sanders does?  I really don't think so and the young guys might actually have time to develop and get better. 

[H-Town G-Fan]

https://x.com/nflevals/status/1896263675734089729

Or if you're the Giants and you want to press odds in favor of landing Carter/Hunter you convince others you want a QB and start a fight for #1. Might make #1/#2 Sanders/Ward and you've got your pick at #3. Whatever criticisms of this regime, they have let very little slip when it comes to the draft, so I have a difficult time as seeing all this talk about the Giants moving up to #1--when we don't have any Pro Days complete--as anything other than an early smokescreen.

[kartanoman]

Or if you're the Giants and you want to press odds in favor of landing Carter/Hunter you convince others you want a QB and start a fight for #1. Might make #1/#2 Sanders/Ward and you've got your pick at #3. Whatever criticisms of this regime, they have let very little slip when it comes to the draft, so I have a difficult time as seeing all this talk about the Giants moving up to #1--when we don't have any Pro Days complete--as anything other than an early smokescreen.

I agree. Besides, isn't it still a little early to be firing these salvos? I mean, over the next 45 days, that's a lot of turds flying in the air and there's only so much empty wall space for them turds to stick before, well, you know, and then the real cow-patties start flying for record!

I don't think this is what March Madness is supposed to be about. 

Peace!