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Rumors on the Giants' free agent position interests

Started by MightyGiants, March 03, 2025, 10:58:24 AM

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Bob In PA

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 03, 2025, 03:40:39 PMhttps://x.com/talkingiants/status/1896655656842838372?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Rich: If true (the part about high-end CB) it would signal they're not interested in Hunter (more likely) or convinced that Hunter will be gone (less likely) or, in any event, if they actually want to trade up, it is certainly not for Hunter. That's a big IF, of course, since this info just a rumor at this point. Bob
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MrGap92

Quote from: Bob In PA on March 05, 2025, 08:37:15 AMRich: If true (the part about high-end CB) it would signal they're not interested in Hunter (more likely) or convinced that Hunter will be gone (less likely) or, in any event, if they actually want to trade up, it is certainly not for Hunter. That's a big IF, of course, since this info just a rumor at this point. Bob

There in no guarantee Hunter is there at 3, going into the draft unprepared for a likely outcome as such would be foolish. They could very well draft him still if he is there.

andrew_nyGiants

Quote from: kartanoman on March 05, 2025, 08:05:44 AMThis is gospel.

All the more reason that this whole QB talk stuff, especially the insanity of trading away draft capital to move to #1, needs to stop and the focus be centered on the draft capital they currently possess and the potential value it can buy them in terms of talent addition.

The healthy balance of smart, affordable free agency signings, along with good drafting, for three years or so will finally get this team's talent back on par with the rest of the league.

Initial grading of the 2024 draft has been promising. Nail this upcoming draft and, as long as the 2024 guys show improvement, and the team can improve their injury rate, the final product should begin to show signs of progress and improvement.

That's why stable, general progress is more important right now than throwing s young QB into a takent-lacking football team. Improve the team, in general, in 2025 with a bridge QB, then go get the franchise QB in 2026 while continuing to add more talent to s team which should now be showing signs of improvement in talent with improving depth.

It's the best way to dig yourself out of a hole and have your team standing on good footing going forward.

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Quote from: katkavage on March 03, 2025, 08:49:17 PMYou are what your record says it is.

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4 Aces

Predictable paint by numbers approach. See hole, plug hole.

They should be concentrating on building a dominant outdoor, trench team that can out-physical the Cowboys, Eagles and Commanders. I still see no signs they are doing that. They'll likely get their doors blown off in the NFC East again.

A G is a good step. Instead of a CB, I'd like to see a 3T and a 5T prioritized. Take care of the trenches first. Then Carter in the draft.

Goal is best trench team in the NFL.

Bob In PA

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 05, 2025, 08:49:20 AMThere in no guarantee Hunter is there at 3, going into the draft unprepared for a likely outcome as such would be foolish. They could very well draft him still if he is there.

Mr G: True, but it would be extremely rare if he were to go first over all. IMO Carter is the most likely (if any are likely) non-QB first over all pick. Right now, my guess for the first three picks is QB, LB, CB. Bob
 
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MrGap92

Quote from: Bob In PA on March 06, 2025, 07:50:55 AMMr G: True, but it would be extremely rare if he were to go first over all. IMO Carter is the most likely (if any are likely) non-QB first over all pick. Right now, my guess for the first three picks is QB, LB, CB. Bob
 

I agree. It is all mostly up in the air, for sure.

Though if they were to sign say a DJ Reed, Ward, or even someone like Adebo, if they want Hunter, I think they would still draft him.

MightyGiants

#22
Here is a good article on the top CB in free agency (a position NYG is likely to target)

https://atozsports.com/nfl/2025-free-agencys-top-cornerbacks-and-why-teams-are-hesitant-to-spend-big-at-the-position/
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MrGap92

I am not as high on DJ Reed as some are.

He is a little too close to 30 for a big ticket FA for me, and he has been playing opposite Sauce Gardner for 3 years, can he stay at this level covering the top WRs now without him (Sauce) on the other side?

MightyGiants

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 06, 2025, 08:42:07 AMI am not as high on DJ Reed as some are.

He is a little too close to 30 for a big ticket FA for me, and he has been playing opposite Sauce Gardner for 3 years, can he stay at this level covering the top WRs now without him (Sauce) on the other side?

playing opposite Sauce means he most likely was the CB that was targetted the most.
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4 Aces

#25
The frustrating thing in all this is Bowen. He is clearly inept and I've heard rumors the players are laughing at him.

The Giants are acquiring personnel for his children's cover 2, and he won't be here in 2026. Maddening stuff.

The inability to hire good coaches is such a huge part of their failures. During their GM search, Hortiz told them he could get Harbaugh. And of course, they hire Schoen/Daboll instead because Schoen bought Parcells coffee 20 years ago. They somehow lucked into getting Wink and blew it, and now have the worst DC in the league. You aren't beating anyone with this staff.

Meanwhile, Harbaugh gets Greg Roman at OC and Jesse Minter at DC. That's a staff that can win games. Ask yourself why in the world the Giants wouldn't've been interested in getting Jim Harbaugh coming off the McAdoo/Shurmur/Judge disasters. They just double down with another 1st time HC with a checkered past of rubbing people the wrong way.

MrGap92

Quote from: 4 Aces on March 06, 2025, 10:48:57 AMThe frustrating thing in all this is Bowen. He is clearly inept and I've heard rumors the players are laughing at him.

The Giants are acquiring personnel for his children's cover 2, and he won't be here in 2026. Maddening stuff.

The inability to hire good coaches is such a huge part of their failures. During their GM search, Hortiz told them he could get Harbaugh. And of course, they hire Schoen/Daboll instead because Schoen bought Parcells coffee 20 years ago. They somehow lucked into getting Wink and blew it, and now have the worst DC in the league. You aren't beating anyone with this staff.

Meanwhile, Harbaugh gets Greg Roman at OC and Jesse Minter at DC. That's a staff that can win games. Ask yourself why in the world the Giants wouldn't've been interested in getting Jim Harbaugh coming off the McAdoo/Shurmur/Judge disasters. They just double down with another 1st time HC with a checkered past of rubbing people the wrong way.

Where did you hear this from?

MightyGiants

Quote from: 4 Aces on March 06, 2025, 10:48:57 AMThe frustrating thing in all this is Bowen. He is clearly inept and I've heard rumors the players are laughing at him.

The Giants are acquiring personnel for his children's cover 2, and he won't be here in 2026. Maddening stuff.

The inability to hire good coaches is such a huge part of their failures. During their GM search, Hortiz told them he could get Harbaugh. And of course, they hire Schoen/Daboll instead because Schoen bought Parcells coffee 20 years ago. They somehow lucked into getting Wink and blew it, and now have the worst DC in the league. You aren't beating anyone with this staff.

Meanwhile, Harbaugh gets Greg Roman at OC and Jesse Minter at DC. That's a staff that can win games. Ask yourself why in the world the Giants wouldn't've been interested in getting Jim Harbaugh coming off the McAdoo/Shurmur/Judge disasters. They just double down with another 1st time HC with a checkered past of rubbing people the wrong way.

Bowen is what happens when you keep your HC after he fires his STC, DC, and takes away play calling from his OC.  Any hot DC is not going to sign up to coach an under-talented defensive roster for a head coach who is on the hot seat (and who seems to have issues with his assistant coaches).

From what I heard when Bowen was hired, he runs a simplistic defense.   Bowen's argument is that by running a simplistic defense the players can play faster.  What he neglects to mention is that simplistic defenses are easier for opposing QBs and OCs to figure out and to defeat.   Good DCs don't just make their defenses complex for the fun of it.
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