Slayton is back

[GordonGekko80]

Gordon,

The average top 5 WR Salary Cap Players- $27.43
RB- $11.82

The average top 5 WR Contracts- $129.6, Slayton ranks- #29 at $36.0 MM
RB- $41.04, Barkley ranks- #3 $41.2 MM

The positional value of WR is 3 times higher for a contract. Yet, Barkley's contract with the Eagles has $14 million more in guaranteed money than Slayton. His average salary is $8.6 million higher than Slayton.

It doesn't matter what they were offered by the Giants. It's what the market valued them at. The price the Giants offered Barkley would be ranked at #5. He left for $5.1 million dollars more.

I get it Ed, that's why I said "I get that he's a WR"... when I said that that's what I was referring to, positional value.

But the value Barkley brings to the table in terms of leadership has clearly been underestimated.

Anyways, we've discussed long enough and it's way past... So let's look forward. 

[Ed Vette]

I get it Ed, that's why I said "I get that he's a WR"... when I said that that's what I was referring to, positional value.

But the value Barkley brings to the table in terms of leadership has clearly been underestimated.

Anyways, we've discussed long enough and it's way past... So let's look forward. 

They saw an injury waiting to happen. I agree, they clearly underestimated his value. They needed to look no further than the % of #26 jerseys in the seats on Sunday. He should have been a NYG for life. 

[TDToomer]

Gordon,

The average top 5 WR Salary Cap Players- $27.43
RB- $11.82

The average top 5 WR Contracts- $129.6, Slayton ranks- #29 at $36.0 MM
RB- $41.04, Barkley ranks- #3 $41.2 MM

The positional value of WR is 3 times higher for a contract. Yet, Barkley's contract with the Eagles has $14 million more in guaranteed money than Slayton. His average salary is $8.6 million higher than Slayton.

It doesn't matter what they were offered by the Giants. It's what the market valued them at. The price the Giants offered Barkley would be ranked at #5. He left for $5.1 million dollars more.

There are 32 teams in the NFL. Are you saying that Slayton is a low end #1 receiver? Even if you take away the receivers in rookie deals who wouldn't factor in these rankings is Slayton a high end #2 receiver? No way. He's the #3 receiver on a team that can't complete passes over 10 yards.

[Jclayton92]

On what planet are these the stats of a $12MM per year receiver?

Season    Age    Team    Lg    Pos    G    GS    Tgt    Rec    Yds    Y/R    TD

2023    26    NYG    NFL    WR    17    13    79    50    770    15.4    4
2024    27    NYG    NFL    WR    16    13    71    39    573    14.7    2

The cap has gone up significantly and WR3s are making 10 to 12 million a year. 1340 yards on 89 Receptions by 3rd string qbs.

13 million a year
Gabe Davis, Darnell Mooney, Josh Palmer

12 million-10 million
Tutu Atwell
Dyami Brown
Jakobi Meyers
Allen Lazard

Slayton is likely better than all those guys and is either paid less or right at what they are getting paid. Slayton has more yards the past two seasons than Christian Kirk with 3rd string qbs and Kirk is making 18 year. Mid wr2 and wr3s are getting paid, listen to the talking Giants guys latest episode, they think we got Slayton for less than market value.

[Jclayton92]

I get that he's a WR... I get that he's had good stats last year.

But we didn't sing Barkley for 36mm and now did it for Slayton.

Sorry but I don't get that.

Slaytons deal is basically 2 yr 22-24 million as he only has 22 million in guarentees. So the contract while it looks similar to saquan, is in reality completely different and Slayton is making significantly less.

[TDToomer]

The cap has gone up significantly and WR3s are making 10 to 12 million a year. 1340 yards on 89 Receptions by 3rd string qbs.

13 million a year
Gabe Davis, Darnell Mooney, Josh Palmer

12 million-10 million
Tutu Atwell
Dyami Brown
Jakobi Meyers
Allen Lazard

Slayton is likely better than all those guys and is either paid less or right at what they are getting paid. Slayton has more yards the past two seasons than Christian Kirk with 3rd string qbs and Kirk is making 18 year. Mid wr2 and wr3s are getting paid, listen to the talking Giants guys latest episode, they think we got Slayton for less than market value.

Slayton is not better than Mooney who had a breakout season with 922 yards as the #2 receiver in Atlanta behind London.
Atwell is only on a 1 year deal and had the similar yards as Slaton who got 12MM more guaranteed
Kirk was a bust who was almost released but now I see the Texans traded for him.

[Stringer Bell]

Slayton is not better than Mooney who had a breakout season with 922 yards as the #2 receiver in Atlanta behind London.
Atwell is only on a 1 year deal and had the similar yards as Slaton who got 12MM more guaranteed
Kirk was a bust who was almost released but now I see the Texans traded for him.

I think the larger point - beyond comparing Slayton to any of those guys from a performance standpoint - is that all of those guys mentioned are in terrible contracts, as well.

I wouldn't trade for / sign any of those guys at those rates. Just because everyone else is paying subpar WR3 talent at those rates doesn't mean we need to. When a good GM sees a market inefficiency like that, that's when they need to pivot and fill those roles via cheap guys from the draft.

We could draft someone like Jalen Royals with our 3rd round comp pick to play that role for 1/10th the cost of Slayton. It's not like it would be hard to top Slayton's 3 TDs.

[Ed Vette]

There are 32 teams in the NFL. Are you saying that Slayton is a low end #1 receiver? Even if you take away the receivers in rookie deals who wouldn't factor in these rankings is Slayton a high end #2 receiver? No way. He's the #3 receiver on a team that can't complete passes over 10 yards.

I wasn't saying anything about his ranking. Remember that most all of those contracts were set in '24 and prior. He is where he is at this point, and I can see that dropping as new contracts are settled. I see him as a potential #2 Wideout on another team, but the reality is that the Slot Receiver will get a lot more looks in the Giants offense when the #1 is Nabors. He also runs deeper routes, and his Y/R was almost 15, but his Reception % is low because of the depth of targets. Personally, I think he was paid high for what he brings to the table with Nabors and the amount of checkdowns and flats that WDR gets.

But the point of the post was to illustrate the disparity in salaries between WRs and RBs at this point in time. I do see that gap closing somewhat as the league is becoming more in Running to the % mix. Big backs are the near term flavor of the day. 

[Trench]

The Giants have let plenty of players go besides SB. Gettleman got rid of every single Reese guy but Slayton. Schoen has done a slightly better job but you need to add Love and McKinney to this list.

Toomer - the defense never looked the same when we lost Love. Standup guy in locker room too. Well spoken. Should be a broadcaster when his career is done