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Joe Milton May Be Available

Started by Philosophers, March 10, 2025, 10:37:46 PM

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uconnjack8

Quote from: Philosophers on March 14, 2025, 01:53:19 PMBecause they have Maye so trade a 6th rounder and pick up say a 3rd rounder.

I get they have Maye.  I feel like with QBs if they felt there was really potential for him to develop they wouldn't be looking to trade him.  With that arm the potential is pretty darn high. 

Trench

I'm not interested in Milton. If he's available it's a flag in my mind. I also feel there is way more than arm strength that goes into it which is likely a reason Milton is on the block

MrGap92

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 14, 2025, 01:49:43 PMI cannot see a project QB being a priority for a FO and HC that are on the hot seat. 

Further, why is he supposedly available?  If there is real upside there, why wouldn't the Pats keep him at a cheap cost?

It is a Matt Schaub type situation more or less

MrGap92

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 14, 2025, 02:01:41 PMI get they have Maye.  I feel like with QBs if they felt there was really potential for him to develop they wouldn't be looking to trade him.  With that arm the potential is pretty darn high. 

Quote from: Trench on March 14, 2025, 02:08:58 PMI'm not interested in Milton. If he's available it's a flag in my mind. I also feel there is way more than arm strength that goes into it which is likely a reason Milton is on the block

You can only have one QB on the field at a time, and they have a mid to high end veteran backup with experience, which is more ideal to have when you have a young QB like Maye, kinda like Mariota with Daniels.


uconnjack8

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 14, 2025, 03:42:49 PMIt is a Matt Schaub type situation more or less

Going to have to look up the Matt Schaub's situation.  I remember him but not what you are referencing.

Do you think someone would pluck him off the practice squad?  Need be, if I had any real belief that he could fulfill a high percentage of his potential I would carry 3 QBs. 

kingm56

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Quote from: MrGap92 on March 14, 2025, 03:44:25 PMYou can only have one QB on the field at a time, and they have a mid to high end veteran backup with experience, which is more ideal to have when you have a young QB like Maye, kinda like Mariota with Daniels.



I honestly fail to grasp the anxiety expressed across multiple threads regarding the available quarterbacks. None of the available QBs (e.g., Milton, Rodgers, Wilson, or Flacco) represent a long-term (or short-term) solution; they are merely stopgaps until the Giants can draft a quarterback with the requisite attributes to facilitate a perennial competitive team.   

MrGap92

Quote from: kingm56 on March 14, 2025, 04:08:44 PMI honestly fail to grasp the anxiety expressed across multiple threads regarding the available quarterbacks. None of the available QBs (e.g., Milton, Rodgers, Wilson, or Flacco) represent a long-term (or short-term) solution; they are merely stopgaps until the Giants can draft a quarterback with the requisite attributes to facilitate a perennial competitive team.   

I agree, I like Milton as a backup, but not a starter, at least not at this time. I would trade for him if it was a low cost pick, but with such a price you shouldn't be expecting a starting QB anyway. You have down the road potential at best.

He is available because he is a backup who a desperate team, or a QB needy team, may allow them to flip a 6th round project to a higher pick.

I think he has the tools to be successful, but he needs time, he is just too raw, and the odds if we are being realistic are against him.

kingm56

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 14, 2025, 04:17:12 PMI agree, I like Milton as a backup, but not a starter, at least not at this time. I would trade for him if it was a low cost pick, but with such a price you shouldn't be expecting a starting QB anyway. You have down the road potential at best.

He is available because he is a backup who a desperate team, or a QB needy team, may allow them to flip a 6th round project to a higher pick.

I think he has the tools to be successful, but he needs time, he is just too raw, and the odds if we are being realistic are against him.


Completely agree, Gap.

Philosophers

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 14, 2025, 04:17:12 PMI agree, I like Milton as a backup, but not a starter, at least not at this time. I would trade for him if it was a low cost pick, but with such a price you shouldn't be expecting a starting QB anyway. You have down the road potential at best.

He is available because he is a backup who a desperate team, or a QB needy team, may allow them to flip a 6th round project to a higher pick.

I think he has the tools to be successful, but he needs time, he is just too raw, and the odds if we are being realistic are against him.


I don't understand this.  He's a backup because he was a 6th round pick when a team spent the 3rd pick in the first round to draft another player.  Nobody said Milton is ready to go now, but for a player who could not hit the sky to having played well in preseason to well in the last game of the season suggests to me he is developing.  I'd take upward development any day when my team has as its sole QB Veal Cutlets.

DaveBrown74

Quote from: kingm56 on March 14, 2025, 04:08:44 PMI honestly fail to grasp the anxiety expressed across multiple threads regarding the available quarterbacks. None of the available QBs (e.g., Milton, Rodgers, Wilson, or Flacco) represent a long-term (or short-term) solution; they are merely stopgaps until the Giants can draft a quarterback with the requisite attributes to facilitate a perennial competitive team.   

I agree Matt. It really isn't important at all insofar as the team's medium to longer term trajectory. It is really not something to fret over.

My preference with any of these guys is to not be financially committed (at all if possible) beyond 2025. If we absolutely have to hand out a multi-year deal, it should be a two year, with a very easy, low-pain out after one year. I don't want meaningful dead cap in 2026 with any of these guys. Preferably none. In my opinion, if there is any reason for anxiety over any of this, it would be over this issue.

bamagiantfan

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 14, 2025, 01:44:46 PMI love his arm, but I am troubled as to why, with that arm, he was a backup for most of his long college career.

He was a fantastic prospect with a once in a generation arm. Unfortunately, several years later, he still is.
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Gmo11

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 17, 2025, 01:30:15 PMhttps://x.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1901687000161296484

The late 3rd round comp pick for Milton would be awfully tempting.  Especially if either the 1st round of the draft or FA doesn't go the way the Giants want it to. 

Philosophers

How is a 3rd rounder for a QB who went through an NFL preseason and played well in an NFL game not worth trading versus drafting a college QB in 3rd round who has not played yet in NFL and of which none have the arm Milton has?
 

Philosophers

The near post free agency period prior to the Draft is when the Pats can ask for a 3rd round pick.  Once the Draft begins and QB needy teams like the Giants see QB options appear, the Pats demand will likely have to come down if they want to move him.

Sure feels to me everywhere in their Qb search, the Giants are sticking to what they are willing to pay and structure.  Makes me think they feel their futurebQB is in this Draft and they can get him.