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Giants sign S Javon Holland

Started by andrew_nyGiants, March 11, 2025, 08:08:14 AM

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Philosophers

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 11, 2025, 08:33:11 AMIn what world is Jevon Holland a backup?

Because in 2024 he sucked at safety plus we already drafted Tyler Nubin last year in round 2 and if safety is really so bad we can sign Malachi Moore from Alabama in round 5 and he would start.

Stringer Bell

Quote from: Philosophers on March 11, 2025, 08:24:17 AMAre we just signing a bunch of backups?

Holland has been a starter his entire career and instantly becomes the best safety on our roster, so not sure where you're getting information that he's a backup. Not to mention, he was the top safety available in free agency.

I don't love the money, but I'm a big fan of Holland's and he's been on my radar since his college days.

I still see Banks as a major weak spot, but with Holland and Adebo, our secondary should be vastly improved. If Phillips can continue to progress and Nubin can improve, this could be a very strong unit.

Priority in draft should be guys who can stop the run - DL and ILB.

EDjohnst1981

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 11, 2025, 08:57:25 AMHolland has been a starter his entire career and instantly becomes the best safety on our roster, so not sure where you're getting information that he's a backup. Not to mention, he was the top safety available in free agency.

I don't love the money, but I'm a big fan of Holland's and he's been on my radar since his college days.

I still see Banks as a major weak spot, but with Holland and Adebo, our secondary should be vastly improved. If Phillips can continue to progress and Nubin can improve, this could be a very strong unit.

Priority in draft should be guys who can stop the run - DL and ILB.

Which in turn makes the DL better, it's clearly been a position of need.

I'm just struggling with the decisions to let McKinney and Barkley out the door to splurge that money on this guy and Slayton.

Still, I'm happy to see how it plays out. I'm just a little confused by the mission.

Ed Vette

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on March 11, 2025, 08:59:24 AMWhich in turn makes the DL better, it's clearly been a position of need.

I'm just struggling with the decisions to let McKinney and Barkley out the door to splurge that money on this guy and Slayton.

Still, I'm happy to see how it plays out. I'm just a little confused by the mission.
I think Schoen knows he screwed up with Barkley and at the time he couldn't afford McK.
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MrGap92

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on March 11, 2025, 08:59:24 AMWhich in turn makes the DL better, it's clearly been a position of need.

I'm just struggling with the decisions to let McKinney and Barkley out the door to splurge that money on this guy and Slayton.

Still, I'm happy to see how it plays out. I'm just a little confused by the mission.

I'm OK with the safety swap, but I agree, they could have probably kept Saquon. Don't sign Singletary and someone else , restructure or move some stuff around, it could have been done.


EDjohnst1981

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 11, 2025, 09:03:11 AMI think Schoen knows he screwed up with Barkley and at the time he couldn't afford McK.

Yes, maybe.

Puffy

Jevon Holland is a step below stud level.  So was McKinney until he left Giants.  In short, Holland can take leap to stud level very easily in Bowen's system.


Wasn't a fan of re-signing Slayton but this signing makes up for that.  Holland and Adebo just improved the back end of Giants D tremendously.

killarich

He's better than Pinnock obviously

But one thing we will miss is when Pinnock was asked to blitz ..... he's no doubt the best safety in the league at getting into the backfield

MightyGiants

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SlotCorner

Wait, is the secondary a strength now? If Banks can get his head in straight you've got three decent corners, a 2nd year guy in Nubin that is really good and now the best safety in FA.

Helps the pass rush too. We need at least one DT in the draft but the defense has some players.

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Jclayton92

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Jevon Holland is an elite top 10 safety.
6'1″ and weighing 205 pounds, the 25yr old was a second round pick of the 2021 draft. In 60 games (57 starts) Holland has recorded 301 tackles (including 9 for loss), 5.0 sacks, 10 quarterback pressures, 5 forced fumbles, 4 recoveries, 5 interceptions, 25 pass breakups, and even scored a defensive touchdown. He had a down year, but had an elite 90.4 grade in 2023 and has been a top 5-8 safety since he step foot in the league.

Our dline now has depth and has the potential to be elite. Then you add in Adebo, Phillips, and Banks as #2, then Holland/Nubin on the backend and our secondary has been completely transformed to pair with the dline. Bowens defense always does better with elite safety play. Most thought Holland was going to sign a 4yr 80 million dollar deal, so to get him for what amounts to 3yr 45 million with only 30 million guarenteed is a steal.

Big difference in the players added this free agency is that they play the ball at a level. They Turnover the ball at a high clip. Between Adebo and Holland they have 15int, 68pd, 7FF, 6FR, 5 sacks, 16tfls.

sooners56

I wanted him in FA and am happy the Giants picked him up. Excellent!
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uconnjack8

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 10:10:57 AMJevon Holland is an elite top 10 safety.
6'1″ and weighing 205 pounds, the 25yr old was a second round pick of the 2021 draft. In 60 games (57 starts) Holland has recorded 301 tackles (including 9 for loss), 5.0 sacks, 10 quarterback pressures, 5 forced fumbles, 4 recoveries, 5 interceptions, 25 pass breakups, and even scored a defensive touchdown. He had a down year, but had an elite 90.4 grade in 2023 and has been a top 5-8 safety since he step foot in the league.

Our dline now has depth and has the potential to be elite. Then you add in Adebo, Phillips, and Banks as #2, then Holland/Nubin on the backend and our secondary has been completely transformed to pair with the dline. Bowens defense always does better with elite safety play. Most thought Holland was going to sign a 4yr 80 million dollar deal, so to get him for what amounts to 3yr 45 million with only 30 million guarenteed is a steal.

Big difference in the players added this free agency is that they play the ball at a level. They Turnover the ball at a high clip. Between Adebo and Holland they have 15int, 68pd, 7FF, 6FR, 5 sacks, 16tfls.

What did I miss, what depth does the DL have now?