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Started by MightyGiants, March 11, 2025, 09:11:29 AM

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londonblue

An offence that cannot stay on the field and cannot put points on the scoreboard will always lead a defence to underperform its potential. That is not an excuse or a free pass for how poorly the D played at times last year. We can hope that a combination of better offence (tbd), better talent on D and more familiarity for returning players with the scheme will see us take a significant step forward on D.
If you live your life as a pessimist you never really live your life at all.

Philosophers

Quote from: londonblue on March 11, 2025, 03:11:33 PMAn offence that cannot stay on the field and cannot put points on the scoreboard will always lead a defence to underperform its potential. That is not an excuse or a free pass for how poorly the D played at times last year. We can hope that a combination of better offence (tbd), better talent on D and more familiarity for returning players with the scheme will see us take a significant step forward on D.

Yeah so instead of losing 24-0 we'll lose 17-0.  It's all about the offense.

Jclayton92

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on March 11, 2025, 02:49:33 PMPerhaps the outcome effect?

The first 10 weeks of the season they gave up an average of 20.3

Once they benched Jones, gave up on the season they gave up a hell of lot more.

I think if you get that weeks 1-10 level production, couple it with good QB, you're winning more games than you're losing.
I think we have a top 15 defense with our additions before we even hit the draft or day 3 of FA. I agree with you that the offense stalling all year killed the defense. If we get a guard and a decent Qb then I think we could easily compete for a wild card this season even with the tough schedule.

Philosophers

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 03:40:42 PMI think we have a top 15 defense with our additions before we even hit the draft or day 3 of FA. I agree with you that the offense stalling all year killed the defense. If we get a guard and a decent Qb then I think we could easily compete for a wild card this season even with the tough schedule.

We need our OL to be healthy and play as a unit.  Last time that happned was pre-2018.

coggs

Quote from: Philosophers on March 11, 2025, 09:51:19 AMI think Azeez's inability to stay healthy has the Giants looking for alternatives.  I like himas I think he brings more juice than Thibs
Between that and his inability to make plays has a lot to do with nobody wanting him.

4 Aces

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see a very impressive D on paper with those signings and big contracts. It looks like a pedestrian D of new pieces with a bad coach.

Too much focus on the secondary instead of the trenches.