Does your draft change now?

[Jclayton92]

Say we sign Rodgers/Wilson and a starting guard Jenkins/Becton to go with our other Free Agents we have already signed. Does that change your opinion of our draft needs and who we might take?

If we have Rodgers, do you still want to take a QB?

With 5 picks in the top 105, we can add significant talent to compete immediately with the talent we got in FA.

If we have a QB, and G to go with what they have, I think our needs do change.

Needs imo-

Future at Qb
Compliment to Tracey
Dynamic Weapon WR or TE
Oline depth
Starting DT
3rd/4th Edge
3rd boundary corner

Obviously we can always get better at some starting positions but we don't go in starving at any position.

What is the biggest need if we get a qb and guard in FA?

What players are you targeting at pick 3 and pick 34 now?

Hunter gives us an electric weapon year 1 and a backup cb for depth, that could eventually be Banks replacement if need be. No matter what I think pick 3 needs to be offense even if it is a trade down or dark horse like Tyler Warren. I don't want to trade up for a Qb, and don't want Sanders.


At pick 34 I'd be ok with Dart if by some chance he slips. Other than that I am looking for a DT/DE/Edge at the top of the 2nd unless an elite oline or corner drops. So a guy like Derrick Harmon, Kenneth Grant, or Walter Nolen at DT. Tyler Booker, or Gray Zabel at guard, Princely Umanmielen, or Donovan Ezeiruaku at edge.


What do we need still? And who do you like?

[gregf]

I wanted to sign and draft at QB, O line, and DT. It's almost a certainty they sign a qb, so my top 3 wants still hold for draft to double down   
   As far as BPA, I really see Hunter and Carter unlikely based on FA. A big ticket corner, with Banks and Phillips negates a big resource need.  Same at WR with Nabers and money spent on Slayton. So Hunter seems unlikely. With the third DE added to go with Burns and Thibs, it seems unlikely to target Carter.   DT is still a big need, but I doubt we spend a top 3 pick on it. 
     It really looks like QB will be the pick.  I doubt Ward is available.  Is the team sold on Sanders or Dart at 3?
    Of course RG and DT need early draft picks to groom starters.

[londonblue]

QB, OL, DT, CB were our biggest draft needs prior to FA. They still are even if we land a QB, G. We need future long-term starters and stronger depth in all these areas. Edge and WR depth also remain needs. S perhaps less so though we ideally need a 4th guy. FA has been solid so far but IMO has only yielded two starters (and kept Slayton).

Free Agency is for now. Drafting is for the future. We may be able to change the sequencing somewhat for BPA at position of need and even take a flyer on eg LB or RB if that is the stand out value when we make a specific pick but really FA is about reducing hunger so we can go with the flow more and not force desperate trades/picks.

[Jclayton92]

I wanted to sign and draft at QB, O line, and DT. It's almost a certainty they sign a qb, so my top 3 wants still hold for draft to double down   
   As far as BPA, I really see Hunter and Carter unlikely based on FA. A big ticket corner, with Banks and Phillips negates a big resource need.  Same at WR with Nabers and money spent on Slayton. So Hunter seems unlikely. With the third DE added to go with Burns and Thibs, it seems unlikely to target Carter.   DT is still a big need, but I doubt we spend a top 3 pick on it. 
     It really looks like QB will be the pick.  I doubt Ward is available.  Is the team sold on Sanders or Dart at 3?
    Of course RG and DT need early draft picks to groom starters.

One thing that most won't think we will do that we probably have to do is draft or sign another Wr. We only have 4 total under contract; Slayton, Nabers, Wandale, and BFW. So even if we think we'll be good, they'll likely draft our future #2 for Slayton to groom. The one free agent besides Rodgers and Jenkins that I really want to sign is ihmir smith marsette. He was the best KR that we've had in a decade maybe plus he'll be cheap.

[katkavage]

A QB will undoubtedly be the pick at 3 or elsewhere if they trade. The only other option would be to take Graham at 3.

[Philosophers]

Schoen said he wanted to use FA sonhe could draft BPA.

Unless there's a QB at 3 he wants, I believe they still go BPA.  Carter, Hunter, Graham all remain in play IMHO.

The big question is if they come away from FA without a QB, I have a hard time imagining they will not draft a QB at 3.  Just hope they dont trade for it.

[MrGap92]

At this point the ideal draft for me would be something like...

Trade back a few spots if possible, and get Tyler Warren, then for Day 2/3 I am just gonna list people I like and have my eye on

Day 2 targets: Tate Ratledge, Walter Nolen, Kenneth Grant, Jalen Royals, Zy Alexander, Will Howard, Deone Walker, Savion Williams, Tre Harris, Mike Green, Maxwell Hairston, TJ Sanders, Darius Alexander, Xavier Restrepo, Ajani Cornelius, Tyler Baron, Chris Paul

Day 3 Targets: Raheim Sanders, Kyle McCord, Pat Bryant, Will Sheppard, Antwan Powell-Ryland, Ricky White, Mello Dotson, Aamir Hall, Tahj Brooks, Phil Mafah, Kyle Monangai, Kalel Mullins, Jack Nelson, Anthony Belton, Jonah Monheim, Jack Kiser, Jamon Dumas-Johnson, Myles Hinton, Tyler Batty, Andrew Armstrong, Joshua Gray, Kobe King, Craig Woodson, Jordan Hancock, Kurtis Rourke, Antwane Wells, Nazir Stackhouse

[MightyGiants]

In theory, the draft shouldn't change.  Drafting for need is never a good formula for success.

[uconnjack8]

I have no idea what they will do in the draft or how they will prioritize. 

If Schoen and Daboll really have been told "improve or your out", and they sign a vet QB, then drafting one at 3 almost works against them (unless that guys is ready to start and win). 

If  I were Schoen and I signed a decent vet QB I would be drafting BPA at 3 to help that QB this year since I may not be around next year

[Bob In PA]

In theory, the draft shouldn't change.  Drafting for need is never a good formula for success.

This has been a solid free-agency period so far. I really like the new corner back but they had to pay extra to lure him to move from a crappy squad to another one, and the contract is based on the assumption/hope/conviction that he will be worth starter pay (not a dead-cinch certainty). Other than that quibble, they did not blunder, but It certainly changes the chances that they're interested in Hunter. Still, there have been any changes in the over all draft situation in my opinion.

A more significant development was getting an extra pick in the top 100. It now gives them an option other than drafting a QB at pick one or three, which is to trade up into the lower first-round and still have a pick on day two.

Also, it's now clear that they will be seriously drafting a QB, rather than taking a pot-shot in a lower round.  Hopefully, that pick will be in the bottom of the first round, with their first pick being NOT a quarterback. I'm hoping for this because IMO the difference between the two supposedly top QB's this year and the rest of the top SEVEN rookie quarterbacks is unusually small.

Bob

[Stringer Bell]

Say we sign Rodgers/Wilson and a starting guard Jenkins/Becton to go with our other Free Agents we have already signed. Does that change your opinion of our draft needs and who we might take?

If we have Rodgers, do you still want to take a QB?

With 5 picks in the top 105, we can add significant talent to compete immediately with the talent we got in FA.

If we have a QB, and G to go with what they have, I think our needs do change.

Needs imo-

Future at Qb
Compliment to Tracey
Dynamic Weapon WR or TE
Oline depth
Starting DT
3rd/4th Edge
3rd boundary corner

Obviously we can always get better at some starting positions but we don't go in starving at any position.

What is the biggest need if we get a qb and guard in FA?

What players are you targeting at pick 3 and pick 34 now?

Hunter gives us an electric weapon year 1 and a backup cb for depth, that could eventually be Banks replacement if need be. No matter what I think pick 3 needs to be offense even if it is a trade down or dark horse like Tyler Warren. I don't want to trade up for a Qb, and don't want Sanders.


At pick 34 I'd be ok with Dart if by some chance he slips. Other than that I am looking for a DT/DE/Edge at the top of the 2nd unless an elite oline or corner drops. So a guy like Derrick Harmon, Kenneth Grant, or Walter Nolen at DT. Tyler Booker, or Gray Zabel at guard, Princely Umanmielen, or Donovan Ezeiruaku at edge.


What do we need still? And who do you like?

I know your premise is based on them signing a FA guard to start, but I'd be surprised if that happens given how crazy the OL contracts have been. Even if they do sign someone, though, I think they still need to draft one.

Re: your list:

Future at Qb - agree they need a QB, but I see it more as a dart throw pick vs. a future franchise guy
Compliment to Tracey - agreed
Dynamic Weapon WR or TE - WR, yes. TE, not a priority
Oline depth - I think they need a starter out of the draft. If they sign a FA guard, then draft an OC/OG combo guy. If no FA guard, draft an OG
Starting DT - agreed if we're talking about a 3-4 DE type to replace RN-R
3rd/4th Edge - agreed
3rd boundary corner - agreed, but I'd almost treat it as a #2 until Banks proves he can be trusted

The one addition to your list is ILB, as McFadden turned back into a pumpkin and is JAG and Okereke's fall-off last year was concerning. None of their depth guys interest me and I see Board as just a specials guy.

My draft still remains pretty similar:

1 - Hunter, CB / WR
2 - Harmon, DT
3a - Ratledge, OG
3b - Gordon, RB
4 - Cook, QB

Now that they have an extra 3rd, I'd be fine trading this year's 5th for Milton. I hope Schoen practices what he preaches and takes some swings at QB. Trade for Milton, draft Cook, then take one in the 1st next year. 3 chances to find your guy, and if one of the others also works out, trade them for a 2nd or 3rd.

My draft misses out on a WR. One scenario that I could get behind is taking Egbuka in the 2nd if he falls. I LOVE Harmon and would hate to miss out on him, but Egbuka could step in immediately as our #2 (but picking him would make me hate the Slayton signing even more than I already do).

[babywhales]

Schoen needs to hit on the 3 pick, that is defendable.

I see Carter, Graham and Dart as the three most likely targets.

Assuming Wilson or Rodgers in FA and I will be pulling for Carter.

Schoen misses on the 3 pick and it will be the end for him. 

[Philosophers]

If the Giants draft a QB at 3, they damn well better use the rest of the draft to construct a better offense around him with additional picks at OL, RB and WR.  This offense needs more talent plus much more starting depth.

If Nabers gets injured, our WR corps all of a sudden becomes useless.  WanDale is not a threat.  Slayton is too inconsistent.  Hyatt can't seem to make it on the field.

If Tracy gets injured, our RB corps all of a sudden  becomes useless.  Here is where we can go later in the draft to draft someone who could be good.  I really like RJ Harvey.  He's extremely explosive, but small at like 5'10 200 pounds +.  His pass blocking hurts him but I have to think they can improve it.  The tradeoff for his explosiveness is worth it IMHO.  He's probably a 4th or 5th round pick.

If Andrew Thomas gets injured, our OL falls off a cliff.  Yes, we need a RG, but we need more quality tackles.  I'd love to draft a RT and push JE to RG and still draft a G both for depth and to replace JE after next year.  I've said this before, but Josh Connerly has NFL movement skills already.  He contained Abdul Carter which speaks volumes.  Tate Ratledge is an NFL ready day 1 starting RG.  He provides no positional flexibility but he's a plug and play RG.

We need much more help on offense than at any position on defense.

If the Giants think they may take a QB in round 2 or later, they still need to improve the offense at those positions.

[Bob In PA]

Schoen needs to hit on the 3 pick, that is defendable.

I see Carter, Graham and Dart as the three most likely targets.

Assuming Wilson or Rodgers in FA and I will be pulling for Carter.

Schoen misses on the 3 pick and it will be the end for him. 

Chris: Do you think as of today that Carter will still be there at Pick Three? Bob

[killarich]

Considering that we upgraded the secondary at 2 positions and resigned Slayton... I do not see Travis Hunter as an option anymore... I mean he still is but just don't see the urgency anymore

Draft Wise , considering we do sign Rodgers and a guard ... I think we either trade up to draft the future QB or trade back to get even more pieces

Which crazy at it sounds... trading back starting to seem real intriguing to me .... At first this free agency was "Bleh" to me but after looking at the overall picture, I do actually think that Joe has filled in some holes in the team ... maybe not with Elite players ...but good players who possibly still have a ceiling to reach

It seems like we beefed up the D-line but I would still want a bonafide DT next to Lawrence ...... I would not be against that at #3 or even if we traded back .....

Just think about it... when healthy the defense last season was leading the lead in sacks.... biggest weakness was the secondary ..... Banks will now be CB2 ... which upgrades that spot, Adebo is an upgrade over banks even with his flaws ... and our Safety unit is also upgraded... and we added depth to the D-line .... If you draft a beast next to Lawrence our defense can be crazy good


Now if you sign someone like Rodgers ..... MAYBE Russel... our offense in itself is already upgraded .... I agree get a complimentary RB for Tracy... and a Guard.... this team can be good.... my biggest thing is health ... but that is another reason why I now look at Joe's process differently... he's also tackled the depth problem on both sides of the trenches

then we still have 3 more picks between rounds 2-3 ... possibly more if we trade back

At this point I may prefer we trade back for a team who would love Hunter ... grab some picks and get Dart or Milroe in the second... let them learn for a year or 2 and see what happens