Does your draft change now?

[gregf]

This has been a solid free-agency period so far. I really like the new corner back but they had to pay extra to lure him to move from a crappy squad to another one, and the contract is based on the assumption/hope/conviction that he will be worth starter pay (not a dead-cinch certainty). Other than that quibble, they did not blunder, but It certainly changes the chances that they're interested in Hunter. Still, there have been any changes in the over all draft situation in my opinion.

A more significant development was getting an extra pick in the top 100. It now gives them an option other than drafting a QB at pick one or three, which is to trade up into the lower first-round and still have a pick on day two.

Also, it's now clear that they will be seriously drafting a QB, rather than taking a pot-shot in a lower round.  Hopefully, that pick will be in the bottom of the first round, with their first pick being NOT a quarterback. I'm hoping for this because IMO the difference between the two supposedly top QB's this year and the rest of the top SEVEN rookie quarterbacks is unusually small.

Bob

I know it's no  guaranty, but I'd love to see a small trade back in 1st, or cash in some draft capitol to move the 34 to about 15 and grab Dart. Add a good DT and OL and I'm a happy camper!

[MightyGiants]

Considering that we upgraded the secondary at 2 positions and resigned Slayton... I do not see Travis Hunter as an option anymore... I mean he still is but just don't see the urgency anymore

This is an interesting and significant point. However, Hunter could be used primarily as a receiver who also takes some snaps and fills in for injury at CB.

That said, it would be tougher to justify a 3rd overall pick on Hunter if there isn't a clear path for him to be boundary CB.

[Bob In PA]

I know it's no  guaranty, but I'd love to see a small trade back in 1st, or cash in some draft capitol to move the 34 to about 15 and grab Dart. Add a good DT and OL and I'm a happy camper!

greg: I'd settle for it, depending on who they get with their 1st 1st-rd pick. Who do you have in mind? Bob

[Bob In PA]

This is an interesting and significant point. However, Hunter could be used primarily as a receiver who also takes some snaps and fills in for injury at CB.

That said, it would be tougher to justify a 3rd overall pick on Hunter if there isn't a clear path for him to be boundary CB.

Rich: It certainly reduced that odds that they would want him at all, but what if he's still there? Could he play a role, if that happened, in a move down, and, if so, which player would they likely take after moving down? Bob

[MightyGiants]

Rich: It certainly reduced that odds that they would want him at all, but what if he's still there? Could he play a role, if that happened, in a move down, and, if so, which player would they likely take after moving down? Bob

If Hunter is the BPA when the Giants draft at 3

Trade down

Grab OT Will Campbell

OT issues will pretty much be solved.   

You kick Jermaine Eluemunor inside to RG (where they originally intended to play him) and have Cambell play RG (backup LT).

[gregf]

greg: I'd settle for it, depending on who they get with their 1st 1st-rd pick. Who do you have in mind? Bob

Before FA: Hunter, Carter, Ward. After FA Ward, Carter, Graham, Hunter.

[andrew_nyGiants]

Rich: It certainly reduced that odds that they would want him at all, but what if he's still there? Could he play a role, if that happened, in a move down, and, if so, which player would they likely take after moving down? Bob

Remember when Young & Parcells stocked the cupboards full with starting LB's 8-10 deep?
Remember when TC and Reese stocked the cupboards full with starting DL 8 deep?
Perhaps it makes sense in todays' NFL to stock the cupboards full with DBs'? Especially if one of them can moonlight at WR.

You never know. My position is that if we cannot trade down and he's the highest ranked player on the board when we pick, I say take Hunter.

[killarich]

This is an interesting and significant point. However, Hunter could be used primarily as a receiver who also takes some snaps and fills in for injury at CB.

That said, it would be tougher to justify a 3rd overall pick on Hunter if there isn't a clear path for him to be boundary CB.

I agreeon this, Idk ... i just feel like this lowers glitz for the Giants at least.... being that we now have Cb1,Cb2 and Slot CB pretty much set and resigned Slayton to be WR2 ..... I think drafting Hunter to be moved around to fill in gaps would not only be a semi wasted pick but would also tarnish the start of Hunters Career

I kind of want Mason Graham at this point considering how the team is built

[MightyGiants]

I agreeon this, Idk ... i just feel like this lowers glitz for the Giants at least.... being that we now have Cb1,Cb2 and Slot CB pretty much set and resigned Slayton to be WR2 ..... I think drafting Hunter to be moved around to fill in gaps would not only be a semi wasted pick but would also tarnish the start of Hunters Career

I kind of want Mason Graham at this point considering how the team is built

Graham would be an interesting choice.  Adding Graham to the talent currently on the defensive roster would have the potential to field an elite defense.

[Jclayton92]

If Hunter is the BPA when the Giants draft at 3

Trade down

Grab OT Will Campbell

OT issues will pretty much be solved. 

You kick Jermaine Eluemunor inside to RG (where they originally intended to play him) and have Cambell play RG (backup LT).

I think whoever drafts Campbell will kick him inside.

[killarich]

Remember when Young & Parcells stocked the cupboards full with starting LB's 8-10 deep?
Remember when TC and Reese stocked the cupboards full with starting DL 8 deep?
Perhaps it makes sense in todays' NFL to stock the cupboards full with DBs'? Especially if one of them can moonlight at WR.

You never know. My position is that if we cannot trade down and he's the highest ranked player on the board when we pick, I say take Hunter.

I feel like the NFL has changed... the human athlete has evolved....  I think now its almost a necessity to have a well rounded team....  We had crazy deep front 7 during our last SuperBowl runs ..... but QB's are also a different beast now .... Michael Vick and his rushing ability was not the norm and a weapon you would lucky to have

Now you got the Mahomes and Jacksons of the world who can not only sling the ball at elite levels ... they can scramble enough to add an extra few seconds to the play that even the best D-lines lose that battle


Which is why I don't think #3 you should just stack up on a position because that guy may be the best player....  especially if other prospects are available may be just as good and fill a need


BPA is always the most important... but I think in this day and age you have to consider BPA and all other factors

[Philosophers]

If Hunter is a Pro Bowl talent at CB, you draft him as the new FA and Banks have not demonstrated that high level of ability.  If it moves Banks to the bench, so be it.  Now have depth plus a better starter.  Signing the free agent CB should not dictate the Hunter drafting if BPA is the strategy.

[MightyGiants]

I think whoever drafts Campbell will kick him inside.

In my opinion (and it's just my opinion) his arm length issue shouldn't be an issue.

Here is a long but excellent article with narrative by the Pats great retired O-line coach on arm length

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/will-campbell-arm-length-dante-scarnecchia/692760/

[files58]

Remember when Young & Parcells stocked the cupboards full with starting LB's 8-10 deep?
Remember when TC and Reese stocked the cupboards full with starting DL 8 deep?
Perhaps it makes sense in todays' NFL to stock the cupboards full with DBs'? Especially if one of them can moonlight at WR.

You never know. My position is that if we cannot trade down and he's the highest ranked player on the board when we pick, I say take Hunter.

If Hunter is there at three Schoen's phone will be ringing off the hook. Maybe the Giants like him, who knows. If there are interested parties I would trade back to no worse than staying in the top 10. Accumulate draft capital. Would like more picks in the top 3 rounds. WE NEED GOOD PLAYERS AT ALL POSITIONS. Is there a LB in the draft about 6'2"-6'4" 230+lb who destroys ballcarriers including QB's? I want at least 1 Parcells like LB on this team. Players don't like to hit anymore. A HOFer like Ronnie Lott today would be in Goodell's office every Monday.

[Philosophers]

In my opinion (and it's just my opinion) his arm length issue shouldn't be an issue.

Here is a long but excellent article with narrative by the Pats great retired O-line coach on arm length

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/will-campbell-arm-length-dante-scarnecchia/692760/

Rich - that was a fantastic article from a real pro at this stuff.  I love how he basically points out to lazy conclusion that if they are short a player fails.  He clearly explains why that is not the case.  The player just has to do other things well.

I would not be surprised if the Giants use pick 3 to draft a tackle as they may want to reset their OL.  Draft a tackle who plays RT and when AT is done or declining or injured, he plays there.