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Started by Jclayton92, March 12, 2025, 06:14:00 AM

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GordonGekko80

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 12, 2025, 10:41:15 AMYes, yes he was drafted by the Giants.  Barkley was drafted 2nd overall and Hernandez was taken in round two.  It was Gettleman's first draft. 

When his rookie contract was up, the Giants let him walk.  He has been playing with the Cards since.  He has played well when healthy.

Right. We had very high hopes on him, unfortunately he didn't live up to the expectations, at least not with us.

MightyGiants

Quote from: GordonGekko80 on March 12, 2025, 10:44:05 AMRight. We had very high hopes on him, unfortunately he didn't live up to the expectations, at least not with us.

That is the story and a major driver of NYG's failings over the past decade.  The Giants haven't neglected the Oline but even when they draft highly touted O-linemen like Hernandez, Neal, JMS they inevitably disappoint. 
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GordonGekko80

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 12, 2025, 10:46:18 AMThat is the story and a major driver of NYG's failings over the past decade.  The Giants haven't neglected the Oline but even when they draft highly touted O-linemen like Hernandez, Neal, JMS they inevitably disappoint. 

I think on JMS, the judgement is still suspended.

Agree on Neal, he's just bad, probably Hernandez wasn't that bad as Neal but not as good as we hoped they'd be.

MightyGiants

Quote from: GordonGekko80 on March 12, 2025, 10:51:31 AMI think on JMS, the judgement is still suspended.

Agree on Neal, he's just bad, probably Hernandez wasn't that bad as Neal but not as good as we hoped they'd be.

I am less optimistic on JMS.  He was older with a long college career.  He came into the league about as FL ready as an NFL center can be. Plus he was a low ceiling/high floor kind of prospect.  So I am not optimistic with the jury still out of him after two seasons in the league. 
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EDjohnst1981

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 12, 2025, 10:46:18 AMThat is the story and a major driver of NYG's failings over the past decade.  The Giants haven't neglected the Oline but even when they draft highly touted O-linemen like Hernandez, Neal, JMS they inevitably disappoint. 

It goes back further than that - the centre, Richburgh was a second rounder that wasn't extended. Granted that could be our medical staff as he was beset by injuries here but that's a story as old as time.

They've certainly tried.


Jclayton92


kartanoman

Quote from: GordonGekko80 on March 12, 2025, 10:51:31 AMI think on JMS, the judgement is still suspended.

Agree on Neal, he's just bad, probably Hernandez wasn't that bad as Neal but not as good as we hoped they'd be.

One intangible on Hernandez, who came to the Giants from UTEP (i.e. Texas - El Paso but grew up in Las Vegas and has extended family in Mexico City), despite having a very good rookie season with the Giants, never truly felt at home in the New York Metropolitan area.

He stayed physically healthy during his time with the Giants except for contracting COVID-19 in 2020. Upon his return, he lost his starting job for the remainder of the season. Although he started all 17 games in 2021, after that dumpster fire of a season, and looking for opportunities to move closer to "home," he jumped at the chance to sign with the Cardinals. In his three years out here, he has suffered injury in two of them (NOTE: 2022 he suffered a pectoral muscle injury which forced him to miss four games while last season, 2024, he suffered a season-ending torn ACL after starting only five games).

John Vaccaro suggests that Hernandez is the league's Most Underrated Free Agent at His Position.

The only question is will the Cardinals make an effort to resign him or will another team take a chance on his proven portfolio of performance and bet that he'll recover from his ACL injury. He's 30 years old and his price tag might translate into too much risk.

Stay tuned. I hope things work out for him because he's been a good one for the Cardinals and an ambassador for the NFL in Mexico.

Peace!


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Trench

Quote from: kartanoman on March 12, 2025, 02:34:09 PMOne intangible on Hernandez, who came to the Giants from UTEP (i.e. Texas - El Paso but grew up in Las Vegas and has extended family in Mexico City), despite having a very good rookie season with the Giants, never truly felt at home in the New York Metropolitan area.

He stayed physically healthy during his time with the Giants except for contracting COVID-19 in 2020. Upon his return, he lost his starting job for the remainder of the season. Although he started all 17 games in 2021, after that dumpster fire of a season, and looking for opportunities to move closer to "home," he jumped at the chance to sign with the Cardinals. In his three years out here, he has suffered injury in two of them (NOTE: 2022 he suffered a pectoral muscle injury which forced him to miss four games while last season, 2024, he suffered a season-ending torn ACL after starting only five games).

John Vaccaro suggests that Hernandez is the league's Most Underrated Free Agent at His Position.

The only question is will the Cardinals make an effort to resign him or will another team take a chance on his proven portfolio of performance and bet that he'll recover from his ACL injury. He's 30 years old and his price tag might translate into too much risk.

Stay tuned. I hope things work out for him because he's been a good one for the Cardinals and an ambassador for the NFL in Mexico.

Peace!

I remember him being a penalty machine. Also wasn't able to open holes at all especially near the goal line