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The Remaining QB Dominos Should Start To Fall Today

Started by Gman329, March 12, 2025, 07:27:04 AM

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Ed Vette

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 12, 2025, 10:21:46 PMI doubt Rodgers would agree to a one year contract at his age. This is his last hurrah.
With the Giants that is. I can see him accepting a two year with the Vikings and a chance for another ring.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Philosophers

If Gmen did not sign a "marquee" QB by now doubt they will.  Now it may be Pauly Wallnuts.

Ed Vette

Quote from: Philosophers on March 12, 2025, 11:20:14 PMIf Gmen did not sign a "marquee" QB by now doubt they will.  Now it may be Pauly Wallnuts.
It's the Aaron Rodgers effect. Why? Because he can.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

GordonGekko80

I have a hunch that the Giants will remain empty handed in this QB Free Agency. Adding pressure to the Front Office even further.

MightyGiants

I think Dan Duggan said it best:

As the hours tick by with the New York Giants awaiting word from a 41-year-old who quarterbacked a 5-12 team last season, there's an inescapable feeling that they picked a terrible time to be on the hunt for a QB savior.

Seems like Rodgers wants the Steelers (or the Vikings) and is using the Giants in the same manner as Stafford.

Wilson seems like a viable option (assuming the Browns don't sign him today) but based on what we saw and heard from last season, the best case is you get an older version of the 2022 Daniel Jones.

Failing all that, you are looking at Jamis Winston as the last QB standing (I understand Mac Jones is off the board now as well)

As for the draft.

All signs are now pointing to the Titans drafting Ward (they built up their O-line in free agency to protect him). 

That means the Giants are going to have to go with Sanders or Dart
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killarich

Man if we miss on Rogers and Wilson that would be extremely depressing

EDjohnst1981

After trading for Pickett, I don't see what's in Cleveland for Wilson?

MightyGiants

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on March 13, 2025, 09:02:52 AMAfter trading for Pickett, I don't see what's in Cleveland for Wilson?

The only other QB on the Brown's roster is the wounded Watson.  The starting job is there for the taking, should Wilson decide to sign.  The Browns don't have a lot of cap space, so I am not sure how much they can offer Wilson, but I since Wilson doesn't seem to be drawing strong interest, he needs to explore all options.
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MightyGiants

#53
I thought it would be worthwhile comparing Rodgers and Wilson by my 3 favorite metrics (for 2024).  For a point of reference, I included DJ 2024:


PFF Grade

Rodgers: 77.8
Wilson: 79.5
DJ: 72.0

Pass Rating (92 is roughly average)

Rodgers: 90.5
Wilson: 95.6
DJ: 79.4

QBR  (60 is considered average)

Rodgers: 48.0
Wilson: 51.3
DJ: 47.8
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TDToomer

Am I the only one here who would be horrified with Rodgers as our QB? He's too old and he flat out sucked last season.
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

Trench

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 13, 2025, 08:48:17 AMI think Dan Duggan said it best:

As the hours tick by with the New York Giants awaiting word from a 41-year-old who quarterbacked a 5-12 team last season, there's an inescapable feeling that they picked a terrible time to be on the hunt for a QB savior.

Seems like Rodgers wants the Steelers (or the Vikings) and is using the Giants in the same manner as Stafford.

Wilson seems like a viable option (assuming the Browns don't sign him today) but based on what we saw and heard from last season, the best case is you get an older version of the 2022 Daniel Jones.

Failing all that, you are looking at Jamis Winston as the last QB standing (I understand Mac Jones is off the board now as well)

As for the draft.

All signs are now pointing to the Titans drafting Ward (they built up their O-line in free agency to protect him). 

That means the Giants are going to have to go with Sanders or Dart

I laugh at the 41 yrs old 5-12 team comment by duggan. Last year he probably had the Jets going to the Super Bowl like most did. The NFL is strange. One or two breaks early and you're off to the races.

I believe if the Giants get Rodgers, nobody will want to face us and he will light it up with Theo and Nabers and WanDale will probably be playing for a contract so it will be exciting. Not to mention, our Oline was very good early in season.

That said, you are what your record says you are.

But....we can hope. I hope for Rodgers

MightyGiants

Quote from: TDToomer on March 13, 2025, 09:29:42 AMAm I the only one here who would be horrified with Rodgers as our QB? He's too old and he flat out sucked last season.

and he's another year older with perhaps a lesser offensive cast.

Reasons to believe he might get better

Jets were dysfunctional which made it harder to perform

Rodgers, one year removed from an injury that often takes two years to fully recover from.
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MightyGiants

Quote from: Trench on March 13, 2025, 09:30:54 AMI laugh at the 41 yrs old 5-12 team comment by duggan. Last year he probably had the Jets going to the Super Bowl like most did. The NFL is strange. One or two breaks early and you're off to the races.

I believe if the Giants get Rodgers, nobody will want to face us and he will light it up with Theo and Nabers and WanDale will probably be playing for a contract so it will be exciting. Not to mention, our Oline was very good early in season.

That said, you are what your record says you are.

But....we can hope. I hope for Rodgers

I think it was 2023 when teams thought the addition of Rodgers was what the Jets needed to be Super Bowl contender.  That belief ended 6 plays into the season.

I don't think teams were nearly as high on the Jets in 2024 as Rodgers was another year older, the Jets didn't seem quite as talented, and the injury Rodgers had suffered (an Achilles) is a tough one to recover from, especially at his age.
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Bob In PA

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 13, 2025, 09:21:21 AMI thought it would be worthwhile comparing Rodgers and Wilson by my 3 favorite metrics (for 2024).  For a point of reference, I included DJ 2024:


PFF Grade

Rodgers: 77.8
Wilson: 79.5
DJ: 72.0

Pass Rating (92 is roughly average)

Rodgers: 90.5
Wilson: 95.6
DJ: 79.4

QBR  (60 is considered average)

Rodgers: 48.0
Wilson: 51.3
DJ: 47.8

Rich: I appreciate making the comparison, but one guy was on a good team and the other was on the Jets. Bob
If Jeff Hostetler could do it, Daniel Jones can do it !!!

Trench

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 13, 2025, 09:33:53 AMI think it was 2023 when teams thought the addition of Rodgers was what the Jets needed to be Super Bowl contender.  That belief ended 6 plays into the season.

I don't think teams were nearly as high on the Jets in 2024 as Rodgers was another year older, the Jets didn't seem quite as talented, and the injury Rodgers had suffered (an Achilles) is a tough one to recover from, especially at his age.

You are right. I lumped his injury year into last season.

That said, I saw a lot of good things with Rodgers last year. Also saw a lot I didn't like (checkdowns). But I do believe he would have a chip on his shoulder and what a sports story it would be to have success with the Giants. I think there is a lot to like with Daboll, Tracy, Nabers, Oline.