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Giants over/under win total is still 3.5

Started by MightyGiants, March 26, 2025, 08:29:41 AM

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spiderblue43

Wow. That's a over bet..c'mon..Geeze...the defense has a real chance if Bowen gets his head out of his ass and becomes more creative..get turnovers,,confusion.

MrGap92

Depends on how generous Ronnie is feeling with player health.

MightyGiants

I guess the key is to find the 4 wins in this schedule


  • Home: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Green Bay, Kansas City, L.A. Chargers, Minnesota, San Francisco
  • Away: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas, New England, New Orleans


Right now, possible wins: Maybe a split with the Cowboys (1), The Saints (2), and the Raiders (3).   

Number 4 would need to be an upset among the remaining 14 games where they are likely to be underdogs.   I would keep an eye on the 49ers, as they seem to be a team in decline.  It appears the Vikings have put all their eggs in the JJ basket, which could be a victory, depending on how things play out.  It's possible Detroit will see a decline with the loss of their two coordinators.  Maybe Chicago doesn't improve as expected.

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H-Town G-Fan

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 26, 2025, 09:21:13 AMI guess the key is to find the 4 wins in this schedule


  • Home: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Green Bay, Kansas City, L.A. Chargers, Minnesota, San Francisco
  • Away: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas, New England, New Orleans


Right now, possible wins: Maybe a split with the Cowboys (1), The Saints (2), and the Raiders (3).   

Number 4 would need to be an upset among the remaining 14 games where they are likely to be underdogs.   I would keep an eye on the 49ers, as they seem to be a team in decline.  It appears the Vikings have put all their eggs in the JJ basket, which could be a victory, depending on how things play out.  It's possible Detroit will see a decline with the loss of their two coordinators.  Maybe Chicago doesn't improve as expected.



I would think the Giants at least have a shot versus the Patriots and Bears.

Gmo11

If you take injuries out of the equation this is an easy over bet.  They should be able to get to 6 wins or so with this roster and relatively competent QB play.  But as always if Thomas goes down again or Nabers or Dexter Lawrence then all bets are off. 

katkavage

This is about right. Wilson won't move the needle much against this schedule. He's better than what they had but remember a very QB needy team didn't want him back.

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T200

Gimme the over. Games aren't played on paper.
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Gmo11

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 08:47:16 AMhttps://x.com/JordanRaanan/status/1905231495687462989

That seems more reasonable.  I think 5.5 to 6 is the proper line.  Couple things bounce right they get to 8 couple things bounce wrong they get down to 4 but that's about where I would expect them to be. 

kartanoman

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 26, 2025, 09:21:13 AMI guess the key is to find the 4 wins in this schedule


  • Home: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Green Bay, Kansas City, L.A. Chargers, Minnesota, San Francisco
  • Away: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas, New England, New Orleans


Right now, possible wins: Maybe a split with the Cowboys (1), The Saints (2), and the Raiders (3).   

Number 4 would need to be an upset among the remaining 14 games where they are likely to be underdogs.   I would keep an eye on the 49ers, as they seem to be a team in decline.  It appears the Vikings have put all their eggs in the JJ basket, which could be a victory, depending on how things play out.  It's possible Detroit will see a decline with the loss of their two coordinators.  Maybe Chicago doesn't improve as expected.


It depends on the injury bug, Rich @MightyGiants  . It's the same story every year, so it seems, so hopefully their new hires in Ronnie Barnes' organization will have an impact right out of the gate. Can Thomas make a full recovery and be able to play an entire season? Maybe the majority of the season?

Have the Giants REALLY narrowed the gap in talent between them and their divisional rivals? They certainly have an opportunity to, if they capture all the potential value with the currency they possess in the upcoming draft.

Will the bridge QB strategy actually produce results for them and open the offensive playbook which, up to this point, has been limited and simplified?

Can their special teams become a difference maker for them instead of an Achilles heel on the verge of rupturing every week?

If they can provide some positive answers to these, then I agree they'll be in several games which will give them an opportunity to win. That said, I wouldn't put too much weight on the performance of the opponents from last year. They'll all be retooling and trying to bounce back as well.

Seriously looking at the opponents:

1. NFC East Divisional Rivals: Giants are looking nowhere but up as the cellar dwellers. The  talent gap between them and Philly + Dallas remains wide and even a beat up Cowboys team owned them last season. The "Team formerly known as the Redskins" punked them twice and we'll find out for sure, this coming season, if it was for real or a one-hit wonder. If not, then maybe there's a win vs. Washington to be had.

2. NFC North: Minnesota and Detroit will be difficult enough. Chicago is a pick em and Green Bay at home is a possibility. You might be able to squeeze a win there, two with a Packer upset.

3. AFC West: Nothing easy here. Denver at Mile High, Raiders in Vegas, not too sure they're up for winning either but sometimes getting these teams at the right time of the season might give the Giants a chance. At the Sardine Can, the Giants haven't beaten the Chargers since the 20th Century, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. But here's a peculiar one. The Kansas City Chiefs have NEVER beaten the Giants in New York/New Jersey. This would be a ripe opportunity for the Giants to pull off a bizarre upset. So, let's give the Giants one win out of this group.

Other NFC 4th Place Teams (NO away, SF home): Giants have not been competitive against the Saints in a while and I doubt that will change. The 49ers will bounce back from last season and, unless the Giants can get emotionally up for this game, the talent differential will ultimately be the difference in a big 49ers' win. NO wins for the Giants here.

Interconference "17th game:" NE away: really hard to say since there's a new head coach taking over. It's too early to tell so make it a pick 'em for now.

So, by my very rough calculations, which mean absolutely nothing right now, and shouldn't since the draft hasn't even taken place, so just for fun, I have the Giants between 3.5 to 4.5 wins in 2025 with a best case 5.5 wins.

As for those who believe a right bounce of the ball gets them to seven or eight, make that a LOT of fortunate bounces!!!

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Philosophers

No way we beat every bad team and maybe get lucky against 1 good team.  3.5 = under for me.

I mean we can go 0 - HOME

londonblue

I am going to inject a little relative optimism here. We sweep the declining Cowboys, go 3-3 in the division and 7-10 overall.
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Quote from: MightyGiants on March 26, 2025, 09:21:13 AMI guess the key is to find the 4 wins in this schedule


  • Home: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Green Bay, Kansas City, L.A. Chargers, Minnesota, San Francisco
  • Away: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas, New England, New Orleans


Right now, possible wins: Maybe a split with the Cowboys (1), The Saints (2), and the Raiders (3).   

Number 4 would need to be an upset among the remaining 14 games where they are likely to be underdogs.   I would keep an eye on the 49ers, as they seem to be a team in decline.  It appears the Vikings have put all their eggs in the JJ basket, which could be a victory, depending on how things play out.  It's possible Detroit will see a decline with the loss of their two coordinators.  Maybe Chicago doesn't improve as expected.


Chicago, LV, NE, NO, and 2 Divisional wins. Anything else is cake.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin