NYG Trade Down Opportunities

[Ed Vette]

There are four coveted Players at the top of the draft at this point in time. When the Giants pick, there will be two available.

New England needs Ol and DL, but they might want to gift Drake Maye, a second elite WR in Travis Hunter.

Jacksonville is another team that could use Hunter on both sides of the ball.

So can Las Vegas.

Then come the Jets and Panthers who need a player like Hunter.

There is an opportunity for the Giants to trade down twice but not too far and pick up a couple of second rounders, and then draft Jaxson Dart. It still may be considered high for Dart by some standards but not for me. Especially if securing extra picks to draft quality players.

I would speculate that preliminary conversations are now taking place.

[MrGap92]

There are four coveted Players at the top of the draft at this point in time. When the Giants pick, there will be two available.

New England needs Ol and DL, but they might want to gift Drake Maye, a second elite WR in Travis Hunter.

Jacksonville is another team that could use Hunter on both sides of the ball.

So can Las Vegas.

Then come the Jets and Panthers who need a player like Hunter.

There is an opportunity for the Giants to trade down twice but not too far and pick up a couple of second rounders, and then draft Jaxson Dart. It still may be considered high for Dart by some standards but not for me. Especially if securing extra picks to draft quality players.

I would speculate that preliminary conversations are now taking place.

I think if they like him, mock drafts, ESPN etc dont matter. I truly believe the word reach is largely exaggerated and overused these days.

I would love the opportunity to trade back a few spots in such a scenario. Maybe Dart does 6 or 7 and we miss him, still some great players like Will Johnson, Tyler Warren also. With some extra capital to fortify the roster, if the opportunity presents itself, unless they dont like enough players to think they will get one, its a no brainer.

[Ed Vette]

I think if they like him, mock drafts, ESPN etc dont matter. I truly believe the word reach is largely exaggerated and overused these days.

I would love the opportunity to trade back a few spots in such a scenario. Maybe Dart does 6 or 7 and we miss him, still some great players like Will Johnson, Tyler Warren also. With some extra capital to fortify the roster, if the opportunity presents itself, unless they dont like enough players to think they will get one, its a no brainer.

The Giants can control how far back they move and although they may get less in a trade, moving one spot at a time keeps them in control.

[MrGap92]

The Giants can control how far back they move and although they may get less in a trade, moving one spot at a time keeps them in control.

What type of return would you want to move down anywhere from 5-8?

[MightyGiants]

There are four coveted Players at the top of the draft at this point in time. When the Giants pick, there will be two available.

New England needs Ol and DL, but they might want to gift Drake Maye, a second elite WR in Travis Hunter.

Jacksonville is another team that could use Hunter on both sides of the ball.

So can Las Vegas.

Then come the Jets and Panthers who need a player like Hunter.

There is an opportunity for the Giants to trade down twice but not too far and pick up a couple of second rounders, and then draft Jaxson Dart. It still may be considered high for Dart by some standards but not for me. Especially if securing extra picks to draft quality players.

I would speculate that preliminary conversations are now taking place.

A small trade-down could yield a more impactful (at least for this season) player, such as:


DT Mason Graham
TE Tyler Warren
OT Will Campbell
RB Ashton Jeanty

[EDjohnst1981]

I think this board will explode if they draft Jeanty in the first round.

I'd stand pat and draft a difference maker at 3.

[MightyGiants]

I think this board will explode if they draft Jeanty in the first round.

I'd stand pat and draft a difference-maker at 3.

Here's the thing: in terms of impact, Jeanty has the potential to be the most impactful pick the Giants could make.

I appreciate the board and likely all of NYG fandom would "explode" if they repeat the 2018 drafting of Saquon Barkley.

I am not saying I am advocating for the pick, I see the pluses and the minuses.  But picking him up after a trade down (which gets us more picks) would be better (in my opinion) than passing on drafting a QB, at two, and drafting Saquon Barkley.

The offense could be pretty special if defenses had to focus on stopping the run and allowed Wilson and Nabers (and company) to enjoy weaker pass protection (as defenses would have to focus on stopping the run).

[Ed Vette]

I'm talking about moving down one slot or two slots at a time for teams that do not need a QB. They could pick up a second round pick and give back a 4th or take a 3rd this year and 2nd next year, with each move down. Then still Draft Dart in the first round. If they trade down twice just one or two slots they could pick up at least two thirds or maybe seconds. These teams may want block someone moving ahead of them. Especially if Hunter, Carter or Graham are on the table.

[Bob In PA]

I think this board will explode if they draft Jeanty in the first round.

I'd stand pat and draft a difference maker at 3.

ED: Don't be surprised to see a team like maybe the Chiefs jump way up for Jeanty,

It's time to get Mahomes a better run game, and Jeanty will bring it. I don't particularly like him as a budding star, but he can be one on a team that threatens defenses with all sorts of passing competency.

I picked the Chiefs as my example because they saw "up close and personal" what Barkley did for the Eagles.

Bob

[MrGap92]

Here's the thing: in terms of impact, Jeanty has the potential to be the most impactful pick the Giants could make.

I appreciate the board and likely all of NYG fandom would "explode" if they repeat the 2018 drafting of Saquon Barkley.

I am not saying I am advocating for the pick, I see the pluses and the minuses.  But picking him up after a trade down (which gets us more picks) would be better (in my opinion) than passing on drafting a QB, at two, and drafting Saquon Barkley.

The offense could be pretty special if defenses had to focus on stopping the run and allowed Wilson and Nabers (and company) to enjoy weaker pass protection (as defenses would have to focus on stopping the run).

I would be surprised if the board exploded tbh. I agree that it is not really the same situation, there are other players I would covet around that range, but if they got enough in return, I would not hate it.

https://giantsfans.net/message_board/index.php?topic=72110.0 BBH ranked him #5 overall

[Bob In PA]

I'm talking about moving down one slot or two slots at a time for teams that do not need a QB. They could pick up a second round pick and give back a 4th or take a 3rd this year and 2nd next year, with each move down. Then still Draft Dart in the first round. If they trade down twice just one or two slots they could pick up at least two thirds or maybe seconds. These may want block someone moving ahead of them. Especially if Hunter, Carter or Graham are on the table.

Ed: Assuming Dart can be a star (I'm not) and assuming the Giants are seriously interested (I'm not, not because they don't need a young QB but because IMO there are more questions about him than you would want to have when spending a top ten first-round pick), then, with those assumptions, you still take a risk by moving down, because they have to "declare" themselves immediately, and if they go down "too far" other teams that want Dart will have plenty of time to consider (and execute) trades up ahead of them. Bob

[Gmo11]

Here's the thing: in terms of impact, Jeanty has the potential to be the most impactful pick the Giants could make.

I appreciate the board and likely all of NYG fandom would "explode" if they repeat the 2018 drafting of Saquon Barkley.

I am not saying I am advocating for the pick, I see the pluses and the minuses.  But picking him up after a trade down (which gets us more picks) would be better (in my opinion) than passing on drafting a QB, at two, and drafting Saquon Barkley.

The offense could be pretty special if defenses had to focus on stopping the run and allowed Wilson and Nabers (and company) to enjoy weaker pass protection (as defenses would have to focus on stopping the run).

I do agree that if they end up taking Jeanty they'd better have traded down to do it.  And I do agree that he would provide a pretty solid impact immediately were they to take him.  But I don't think they should do that. 

For one reason, the team is roughly in a similar position as they were when Barkley was picked.  They had an aging QB (check) and one superstar WR on offense (check) and a bunch of JAGS around them.  Unless you're particularly enamored with Darius Slayton.  And while I know Barkley's rookie year was his best year with the Giants in large part because of the presence of OBJ, it's a house of cards where one injury or one idiotic trade could derail the whole thing.

If they were to trade down, I'd prefer they draft either a DT or OG with that pick, or even another WR rather than a RB.  I think those would provide about as much of an immediate impact provided they're not busts, and also bring depth.  While knowing I would be taking a RB later in the draft who will certainly not be as good as Jeanty, but could be good enough to provide similar stats when paired with Tracy, who could very well take a leap himself given how little experience he has at the RB position in general and how good he looked despite that last year.

[Bob In PA]

For one reason, the team is roughly in a similar position as they were when Barkley was picked. 

Gm: Absolutely correct. Nice post. Bob

[Ed Vette]

Ed: Assuming Dart can be a star (I'm not) and assuming the Giants are seriously interested (I'm not, not because they don't need a young QB but because IMO there are more questions about him than you would want to have when spending a top ten first-round pick), then, with those assumptions, you still take a risk by moving down, because they have to "declare" themselves immediately, and if they go down "too far" other teams that want Dart will have plenty of time to consider (and execute) trades up ahead of them. Bob

You're missing the point Bob. The purpose is to draft down so a QB needy team can't sneak in.

And the only concern I have with Dart is that he may have an affair with the wife of a Coach or the family. Lol

[Bob In PA]

You're missing the point Bob. The purpose is to draft down so a QB needy team can't sneak in.

And the only concern I have with Dart is that he may have an affair with the wife of a Coach or the family. Lol

Ed: OK, but I may have misunderstood (or misread) your post. What is the farthest down you would move to accomplish your objective without leaving the door open for some other team to jump over you?  Bob