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Started by MightyGiants, April 01, 2025, 09:03:48 AM

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How much would you be okay with the Giants giving up, to trade to the first overall pick to get Cam Ward?
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Gmo11

If you had asked me this question before Wilson, I'd have said a couple 3rd rounders perhaps a 2nd rounder next year and a 3rd this year.  Basically not enough to get it done.

Post Wilson signing...nothing.  I'd rather have Hunter or Carter at this point.

T200

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2025, 09:03:48 AMhttps://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1907053917856317775


How much would you be okay with the Giants giving up, to trade to the first overall pick to get Cam Ward?
It's just a smoke screen :smoking:
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-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.

MightyGiants

Quote from: T200 on April 01, 2025, 09:21:52 AMIt's just a smoke screen :smoking:

I have heard reports that the first pick is off the table (because the Titans want too much) and others that suggest that it's still a possibility.   
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T200

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2025, 09:24:46 AMI have heard reports that the first pick is off the table (because the Titans want too much) and others that suggest that it's still a possibility.   
Everyone has their price. If someone offered a king's ransom for the #1 pick, the Titans would take it. Schoen ain't that guy.
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"We're going to build this thing the right way... I'm not going to do a Hail Mary for self preservation. We've got a plan in place and we're going to stick with that"

-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.

MightyGiants

Quote from: T200 on April 01, 2025, 09:28:28 AMEveryone has their price. If someone offered a king's ransom for the #1 pick, the Titans would take it. Schoen ain't that guy.

I am hearing the Titans want next year's and 2027's first-round pick.  So I hope Joe isn't that guy because that's too rich for my taste. 

I like Ward, but I think there is a not-insignificant chance he could be more like Winston than Wilson.
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madbadger

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2025, 09:03:48 AMhttps://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1907053917856317775


How much would you be okay with the Giants giving up, to trade to the first overall pick to get Cam Ward?

Nothing. I am probably the biggest Cam Ward supporter here but we have too many needs to give away picks to get him. With next years draft loaded with high end quarterback prospects I'm fine with taking the BPA at 3 and running with Wilson/Winston for this year, and then going all in on a quarterback in next years draft while using next years cap space to ensure whoever that is has all the tools to succeed with.

T200

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2025, 09:30:22 AMI am hearing the Titans want next year's and 2027's first-round pick.  So I hope Joe isn't that guy because that's too rich for my taste. 

I like Ward, but I think there is a not-insignificant chance he could be more like Winston than Wilson.
I expect Joe to stay true to his comments in my signature. The Giants need a QB but it only takes one pick to get one. Giving up multiple picks for one player is a desperation move this year.
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"We're going to build this thing the right way... I'm not going to do a Hail Mary for self preservation. We've got a plan in place and we're going to stick with that"

-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.

MightyGiants

Quote from: madbadger on April 01, 2025, 09:37:43 AMNothing. I am probably the biggest Cam Ward supporter here but we have too many needs to give away picks to get him. With next years draft loaded with high end quarterback prospects I'm fine with taking the BPA at 3 and running with Wilson/Winston for this year, and then going all in on a quarterback in next years draft while using next years cap space to ensure whoever that is has all the tools to succeed with.

I don't want to give up multiple first-round picks.  I also expressed by reservation for Ward.

That said, I would be willing to give up a good deal to take Ward (if Schoen and Daboll believe in him).  The team would have Ward on a cheap deal for 3 or 4 years, and free agency can help fill the holes those lost picks would create.
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Stringer Bell

Quote from: T200 on April 01, 2025, 09:21:52 AMIt's just a smoke screen :smoking:

It's not even that. It's 2 guys talking. Titans aren't trading that pick.

T200

Quote from: Stringer Bell on April 01, 2025, 10:08:12 AMIt's not even that. It's 2 guys talking. Titans aren't trading that pick.
The smoke screen is Schoen making people think he's interested in moving up. I hope he has private meetings with the rest of the GMs  :laugh:
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"We're going to build this thing the right way... I'm not going to do a Hail Mary for self preservation. We've got a plan in place and we're going to stick with that"

-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.

MightyGiants

Quote from: T200 on April 01, 2025, 10:10:57 AMThe smoke screen is Schoen making people think he's interested in moving up. I hope he has private meetings with the rest of the GMs  :laugh:

Tim,

I heard a report that the Giants did meet with the Titans at the Combine to discuss the possibility of moving up.  As I said, the report went on to say the Giants dropped out when the price became too high.

Now if the Titans want to trade down and they were playing games to raise the price, the Titans might come back to the Giants to see what Schoen IS willing to pay.

It's the lying season and the speculation season, but it was interesting that the two GMs who could swing a potential deal were seen together.  We know from Hard Knocks, that's how Joe Schoen likes to operate, in person informal meetings.
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Puffy

Two Thirds this year (65 and 99) and a Second and Fifth next year

MrGap92

Schoen always says he has trades in place ahead of time if the board lines up, could be that, but for later rounds too.

MightyGiants

Quote from: MrGap92 on April 01, 2025, 11:40:55 AMSchoen always says he has trades in place ahead of time if the board lines up, could be that, but for later rounds too.

Don't forget the draft order rotates since the Giants, Browns and Titans have the same record.

Round 2, the Giants pick 2nd

Round 3, the Giants pick 1st

and so on
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