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ABDUL CARTER

Started by MightyGiants, April 06, 2025, 09:30:09 AM

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Uncle Mickey

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 07, 2025, 10:40:37 AMhttps://x.com/JustinPugh/status/1909252762983968795

NO you don't pass on the generational talent like the Giants did on Parsons bc they were a little too scared of his character. Abdul isn't squeaky clean either by the way.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on April 07, 2025, 12:25:35 PMNO you don't pass on the generational talent like the Giants did on Parsons bc they were a little too scared of his character. Abdul isn't squeaky clean either by the way.

It occurs to me the high picks crashing and burning due to character issues seem to have declined over the years.
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killarich

Man I really hope we get Carter

The thought of the possibility of getting him and a second round DT is absolutely insane

MightyGiants

Chris Simms: My 2025 Draft EDGE rankings. Abdul Carter is a once every few years type of player, but this position has a lot of F the play up guys this year.

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Jclayton92

I know this is about Carter and it should be, but don't sleep on the additions of Golson and Dimukeje. I think Golson in particular really stands out, and could have a breakout year with or without Carter. With Carter though, I think it's a top 3 front 7.

Topshelf21

You gotta stop posting all this information....it's making me change my mind almost daily!!

I thought that Hunter is the best player for us to take if he's available, but now you've got me questioning my wanting him over Carter.

I'm thinking I'll be fine with either when it comes time to pick.

I think I'll resign my place as a Big Blue fan if they are both available and we don't take either of them!

Yep....calling it now. If they are both available at 3 and we don't take either, I'm done!!

Barring a trade down for a Ricky Williams package that is....I could live with that!

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Uncle Mickey

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 07, 2025, 10:33:07 PMI know this is about Carter and it should be, but don't sleep on the additions of Golson and Dimukeje. I think Golson in particular really stands out, and could have a breakout year with or without Carter. With Carter though, I think it's a top 3 front 7.

Gholston has inside out versatility on passing downs which I like a lot.



Imagine this for a moment on passing downs:

Thibs-Gholston-Dex-Burns
Carter-Okereke-McFadden


On run downs

Gholston-Ledbetter-Dex-Burns/Thibs
Carter - Okereke- McFadden

Obviously some variations depending on packages and rotations but we will have a lot more chess pieces to play with.

4 guys with double digit sack potential

Philosophers

Quote from: killarich on April 07, 2025, 03:34:53 PMMan I really hope we get Carter

The thought of the possibility of getting him and a second round DT is absolutely insane

Defense on first 2 rounds after big moves in FA?  What about the nearly always 31st ranked offense?

Gman329

It's still not clear to me how we'd get Carter, Thibs and Burns on the field at the same time.  I'd prefer Hunter, which would give us a dominant secondary, with Adebo, Vernon, Nubin and Phillips......but it appears the Browns have come to their senses and will grab him at 2. 

UncannyGfan

Quote from: Philosophers on April 08, 2025, 02:20:30 AMDefense on first 2 rounds after big moves in FA?  What about the nearly always 31st ranked offense?

I think for offense, if they are going to improve it will come from a healthy Thomas, Wilson, and Nabers year 2 growth.  Is enough when paired with a lock down defense?   I hope so.  Where else on would you target for improvement at the expense of this potential defense?

killarich

Quote from: Philosophers on April 08, 2025, 02:20:30 AMDefense on first 2 rounds after big moves in FA?  What about the nearly always 31st ranked offense?


I think we were held back by bad qb play

Not saying Wilson will magically transform the offense ..... but even if he gets us to only 20th in the league

A top 3 defense that is constantly putting the offense in good position.... Is a better team makeout to me that could win more games or be more competitive then having a top 10 defense and hope a second round wr or OL will magically turn the team around

I've said in another thread ....carter and DT ... then go offense rest of draft

Offense big question mark is Thomas ... when the o line was healthy they were actually pretty good .... jones just couldn't take advantage of it

killarich

Quote from: Gman329 on April 08, 2025, 06:42:11 AMIt's still not clear to me how we'd get Carter, Thibs and Burns on the field at the same time.  I'd prefer Hunter, which would give us a dominant secondary, with Adebo, Vernon, Nubin and Phillips......but it appears the Browns have come to their senses and will grab him at 2. 

Caster can play MLB, ILB and his hand in his dirt

You can def have all three on the field almost Fulltime

Carter can be what Bowen wanted Simmons to do as a joker

Philosophers

Quote from: killarich on April 08, 2025, 07:03:30 AMI think we were held back by bad qb play

Not saying Wilson will magically transform the offense ..... but even if he gets us to only 20th in the league

A top 3 defense that is constantly putting the offense in good position.... Is a better team makeout to me that could win more games or be more competitive then having a top 10 defense and hope a second round wr or OL will magically turn the team around

I've said in another thread ....carter and DT ... then go offense rest of draft

Offense big question mark is Thomas ... when the o line was healthy they were actually pretty good .... jones just couldn't take advantage of it

If Wilson improves the O from 31st to 20th, that's a big leap but it would still be a below average O.