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ABDUL CARTER

Started by MightyGiants, April 06, 2025, 09:30:09 AM

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Quote from: UncannyGfan on April 10, 2025, 07:42:03 AMI agree, if all three have equal snap counts and only 2 are on the field at a time, their intensity per snap will be hard to stop through out the game.

Being able to throw a rotation of fresh pass rushers at opposing offenses is a good thing.   
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DJN

I'm hoping we draft Carter, but look at that picture of him...There's no chance in hell, he's 255 pounds...Does he look 10 pounds heavier then LT ??

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Quote from: DJN on April 10, 2025, 11:40:18 PMI'm hoping we draft Carter, but look at that picture of him...There's no chance in hell, he's 255 pounds...Does he look 10 pounds heavier then LT ??

I've actually been looking at clips of him thinking his torso is super compact and I dunno how he is going to do physically against NFL players.

He looks light up top to me. Maybe it's his shoulder pads & how he wears them, but dare I say he looks "thin".

I was comparing him to Osi in pictures and there is no way this dude is the same weight/size as Osi.

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If the Giants were to draft Carter, they would be drafting to a strength.  The Giants did that by drafting Carl Banks, drafting JPP, and drafting Kiwanuka.   Other teams have done this successfully as well (Packers taking Rodgers when they had Farve, the 49ers taking Thomas when they had Buckner and Armstead).  Teams drafting to a strength usually don't regret the move


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Quote from: MightyGiants on April 11, 2025, 09:34:48 AMIf the Giants were to draft Carter, they would be drafting to a strength.  The Giants did that by drafting Carl Banks, drafting JPP, and drafting Kiwanuka.   Other teams have done this successfully as well (Packers taking Rodgers when they had Farve, the 49ers taking Thomas when they had Buckner and Armstead).  Teams drafting to a strength usually don't regret the move




It's a great point Rich.  You do need a good coordinator to deploy the strength in a way that overwhelms opponents.  In that regard I feel less confident in Bowen. 


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Is anyone really worried about Carter's foot injury and it being a potential chronic problem?  For the way he plays and bends a lot, he is putting enormous torque on both his feet.

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Not sure if this was mentioned or not, but sometimes Penn st kicked Carter to the inside to rush the QB.

So, you could have KT, Burns, and Carter all rushing the QB at the same time, especially on 3rd down, without any of them losing too many snaps.

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Quote from: Philosophers on April 18, 2025, 08:36:53 AMIs anyone really worried about Carter's foot injury and it being a potential chronic problem?  For the way he plays and bends a lot, he is putting enormous torque on both his feet.

Joe,

I think this article should answer your questions


https://sicscore.com/news/abdul-carters-foot-injury-bears-watching-but-draft-stock-remains-strong
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Quote from: MightyGiants on April 19, 2025, 07:12:48 AMJoe,

I think this article should answer your questions


https://sicscore.com/news/abdul-carters-foot-injury-bears-watching-but-draft-stock-remains-strong

Thanks Rich.  That article makes me feel worse.  If he needs to be "managed" throughout OTAs, Spring, Camp and the continued stress at that position for that type of injury, I really wonder if drafting him makes sense.

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Quote from: Philosophers on April 19, 2025, 07:50:00 AMThanks Rich.  That article makes me feel worse.  If he needs to be "managed" throughout OTAs, Spring, Camp and the continued stress at that position for that type of injury, I really wonder if drafting him makes sense.

If this is going to be an Andrew Thomas situation with a chronic foot problem and lots of missed games and various surgeries over the years, I agree it's not worth a top 5 selection.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Philosophers on April 19, 2025, 07:50:00 AMThanks Rich.  That article makes me feel worse.  If he needs to be "managed" throughout OTAs, Spring, Camp and the continued stress at that position for that type of injury, I really wonder if drafting him makes sense.

The article did say the injury shouldn't be long-term.  I am okay with a potential minor impact on the rookie season for the potential of a long-term elite pass rusher
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