NGT: What happens with Shedeur Sanders this year?

[Doc16LT56]

https://x.com/Nate_Tice/status/1917600722776121668?t=3lJXBLJFDTfnuMHgR-UGog&s=19

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/Nate_Tice/status/1917600722776121668?t=3lJXBLJFDTfnuMHgR-UGog&s=19

They don't call them the "Dirty Birds" for nothing 

[jgrangers2]

Sanders flat out refused to meet with certain teams, that while probably blowing the interviews with very few teams who needed a qb led to this. Not even spending the 15 minutes to meet with people who you hope to be around for 10-15 years is such a bad look. Totally unprofessional, if you are an NFL team and want to meet and him and talk to him and just spurns you that's just horrendous advice.

These guys need agents. Crazy thing too is he is probably getting a 90% paycut from staying in school and getting NIL over being a late rounder. Also Dillon Gabriel can ball. Sanders getting cut would be no suprise, then its XFL time. People that age need guidance.

His father did him absolutely no favors by insulating him and trying to control the whole process. They needed to let him be coached by someone else and hire an agent that would be honest with them, even if brutally so.

[MightyGiants]

His father did him absolutely no favors by insulating him and trying to control the whole process. They needed to let him be coached by someone else and hire an agent that would be honest with them, even if brutally so.

I think the failure to hire a quality agent was far and away the biggest mistake.  When you consider that the failure to hire an agent likely cost Sanders $35 million, you really wonder if trying to save that maximum 3% cut agents receive was worth it.

I suspect that Sanders will prove to be a cautionary tale that will have fewer players opting out of the pre-draft process or not hiring agents.   

[Doc16LT56]

I voted for final 53 and I won't be surprised if he's starting by the end of the year. But I would qualify that by saying if he doesn't learn some lessons from this process, he's going to end up getting cut. If not this year, then next year. He has to be at least a little more humble and want to work for it.

[MightyGiants]

didn't see this one coming

https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1917665760044016061

[Crypto Fareez]

I love the plot twist ....

Public perception of arrogant, spoiled, entitled to humble, hard working "man of the people"  underdog story faster then an amazon package can get to my house.   

[nb587]

I don't think I've seen Sanders play even on tv so I bring nothing to the table talent wise. But, I think people should lighten up on him.  He's a kid who bought into the hype of pundits, fans and most importantly an overbearing father.  As a general rule, I prefer that a QB be confident if not cocky.  Humble doesn't mean much unless it's just for show but that's for QBs who have proved themselves; Sanders has not & hopefully, for his sake, learned from what must be a nightmare.  That said, being drafted by the Browns is probably good for him.

Someone mentioned above that the owner forced the team to draft him.  Was that a rumor or was it co?

[Ed Vette]

didn't see this one coming

https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1917665760044016061

I hope this kid can turn it around. Cleveland can use a hero.

[ralphpal1]

Nothing wrong with learning under Joe flaco

[DaveBrown74]

While I think the decision made by Ulbrich's son to do this prank was in incredibly poor taste, immature, lame, and deserving of shaming and some sort of punishment, I thought fining Ulbrich $100k was rather extreme by the NFL. That's a very large sum of post-tax money for a guy who is not making player or head coach type money. I think 1/3 of that would have been fine. $100k is a real assault on that family's finances.

Yes, what the kid did was bad. But $100k? I think that's too much. Kids do stupid, sometimes idiotic sht. Kids who end up being perfectly solid adults make dumb mistakes in their youth. That's not me condoning him, but I don't think forcing Ulbrich to pay $100k of post tax money is a reasonable punishment for this. No laws were broken here. An apology was issued quickly. A fine of a still painful, but less extreme amount would have been appropriate here. I think the NFL was embarrassed about the Shedeur fall, and this decision was unreasonably influenced by that to some degree.

Just my personal view.

[bldevil]

I think the point of the large fine is that every NFL team employee from now on is going to be much, much more careful with draft pick private information.  How much more careful?  About $100K more careful.

[DaveBrown74]

I think the point of the large fine is that every NFL team employee from now on is going to be much, much more careful with draft pick private information.  How much more careful?  About $100K more careful.

Totally get that but I think that could have been accomplished with less money. $100k for an assistant coach is nuts. Why isn't the league fining players who do bad things several million if six figures for an assistant coach is the new normal?

[Ed Vette]

While I think the decision made by Ulbrich's son to do this prank was in incredibly poor taste, immature, lame, and deserving of shaming and some sort of punishment, I thought fining Ulbrich $100k was rather extreme by the NFL. That's a very large sum of post-tax money for a guy who is not making player or head coach type money. I think 1/3 of that would have been fine. $100k is a real assault on that family's finances.

Yes, what the kid did was bad. But $100k? I think that's too much. Kids do stupid, sometimes idiotic sht. Kids who end up being perfectly solid adults make dumb mistakes in their youth. That's not me condoning him, but I don't think forcing Ulbrich to pay $100k of post tax money is a reasonable punishment for this. No laws were broken here. An apology was issued quickly. A fine of a still painful, but less extreme amount would have been appropriate here. I think the NFL was embarrassed about the Shedeur fall, and this decision was unreasonably influenced by that to some degree.

Just my personal view.

I agree.

[jgrangers2]

I think the failure to hire a quality agent was far and away the biggest mistake.  When you consider that the failure to hire an agent likely cost Sanders $35 million, you really wonder if trying to save that maximum 3% cut agents receive was worth it.

I suspect that Sanders will prove to be a cautionary tale that will have fewer players opting out of the pre-draft process or not hiring agents. 

At the very least, it would have given them someone with contacts to be realistic about his prospects.