Warning Graphic- How did this fan fall?

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1917746940168519990

https://x.com/JimmyReuben/status/1917745114274734471

[MightyGiants]

Sadly, the fan passed away from his injuries


https://talksport.com/sport/baseball/3166636/clemente-wall-pnc-park-pirates-fan-injured-mlb/

[ozzie]

Sad.

[MightyGiants]

I heard reports he was drunk.  From the video it looks like he was trying to stand on the railing and that's how he fell

[MightyGiants]

I wouldn't be surprised if the family sues, claiming the stadium was unsafe and that stadiums take measures to make it harder for this sort of thing to happen.   In college, I used to have access to the NYU Library.  It was an impressive structure.  It was 12 stories tall, and the middle was open from the ground floor to the roof, with the books in rooms ringing the large open space.  Over the years, apparently, too many students jumped off the railings, killing themselves, and the schools were forced to change the design and enclose the ringed areas.

In my old man rant, I can't help but feel the newer generations are trying to child-proof the world.   I can remember years ago taking my young nephew to a playground (that was infinitely safer than the ones I used as a kid).  There were two mothers there complaining that the polls that held up the playground structure weren't padded and what would happen if their (dim bulb, my commentary) kids ran into the polls...

I just think that while tragedies are going to happen, we need to have reasonable limits on how much we child-proof the world to try and protect the stupid people from themselves.  I will not step off my old-man rant soapbox.

I just shook my head 

[T200]

Darwin award nominee

[Ed Vette]

I wouldn't be surprised if the family sues, claiming the stadium was unsafe and that stadiums take measures to make it harder for this sort of thing to happen.   In college, I used to have access to the NYU Library.  It was an impressive structure.  It was 12 stories tall, and the middle was open from the ground floor to the roof, with the books in rooms ringing the large open space.  Over the years, apparently, too many students jumped off the railings, killing themselves, and the schools were forced to change the design and enclose the ringed areas.

In my old man rant, I can't help but feel the newer generations are trying to child-proof the world.   I can remember years ago taking my young nephew to a playground (that was infinitely safer than the ones I used as a kid).  There were two mothers there complaining that the polls that held up the playground structure weren't padded and what would happen if their (dim bulb, my commentary) kids ran into the polls...

I just think that while tragedies are going to happen, we need to have reasonable limits on how much we child-proof the world to try and protect the stupid people from themselves.  I will not step off my old-man rant soapbox.

I just shook my head 

I never thought I'd see the day you would become a Libertarian. Welcome!

[MightyGiants]

I never thought I'd see the day you would become a Libertarian. Welcome!

I wouldn't go that far  , but I do think people need to take some personal responsibility

[MightyGiants]

Some good news, I may have misread the article (they were referring to another fan dying).

It appears that the latest is he is in critical condition


Pittsburgh Public Safety officials said in a post on X, formerly Twitter, Wednesday that the man was taken to Allegheny General Hospital by ambulance and was last said to be in critical condition.

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/PghPublicSafety/status/1917926889663905828

[EDjohnst1981]

Sadly, the fan passed away from his injuries


https://talksport.com/sport/baseball/3166636/clemente-wall-pnc-park-pirates-fan-injured-mlb/

Edit. Got to the rest of the thread.

[MightyGiants]

Here is an update on the story, if interested

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/pirates-fan-fall-identified-pnc-park-pittsburgh/

[DaveBrown74]

Here is an update on the story, if interested

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/pirates-fan-fall-identified-pnc-park-pittsburgh/

At this point I don't really care if this guy had two beers or 20. All that matters is his condition now. If he has a drinking problem and he is able to survive and physically recover from this, he can deal with that later. Sounds like he didn't have much to drink at all, if it was only two beers. I'm actually not even sure why the media is focused on this side of the story. The article barely talks about how he is doing, which is what people should care about.

[MightyGiants]

At this point I don't really care if this guy had two beers or 20. All that matters is his condition now. If he has a drinking problem and he is able to survive and physically recover from this, he can deal with that later. Sounds like he didn't have much to drink at all, if it was only two beers. I'm actually not even sure why the media is focused on this side of the story. The article barely talks about how he is doing, which is what people should care about.

Do you think the fact that he was underaged might be part of the reason?

[DaveBrown74]

Do you think the fact that he was underaged might be part of the reason?

If the fact that a 20 year old may have had two beers a handful of months before he was technically of legal age is the bigger story then the precise nature of his condition and chances of survival and recovery, then people are pretty warped.