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44 was also work by the late Doug Kotar.
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Quote from: President Rick on May 20, 2025, 01:02:55 PM44 was also work by the late Doug Kotar.

and Maurice Carthon
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And Ahmaad Bradshaw (which I believe he mentioned during the interview).
If Jeff Hostetler could do it, Daniel Jones can do it !!!

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Quote from: Gman329 on May 20, 2025, 02:18:44 PMShowing my age but 44 to me is always Kyle Rote.
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Sort of getting a little tired of all things Skatteboo.  Let's see him perform in the NFL before all this attention.  I want to see him bounce off NFL tacklers before I am convinced he genuinely can.

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Quote from: Philosophers on May 22, 2025, 02:50:12 AMSort of getting a little tired of all things Skatteboo.  Let's see him perform in the NFL before all this attention.  I want to see him bounce off NFL tacklers before I am convinced he genuinely can.

I agree here. I think it's because us Giants fans are a little desperate for anything positive concerning our team.
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Quote from: jimc on May 22, 2025, 06:12:25 AMI agree here. I think it's because us Giants fans are a little desperate for anything positive concerning our team.

I know folks talk about his great contact balance but it was in an inferior conference defensively plus I do not see him as a very plus athlete.  Being a tough runner in college is far from being Marshawn The Beast Lynch.


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My excitement for Skattebo is based on what I saw on tape and the reality that Skattebo was their offense.  That was all opposing defenses were focused on stopping and they consistently failed as Skattebo (unlike the highly touted QBs and some of the highly touted RBs) led his team to the college playoffs.

As for the 40 time (really the only measure that was an outlier) consider this from Google AI


While a blazing 40-yard dash time is often associated with NFL running back success, several players have thrived despite running a 4.65 or slower at the NFL Combine. Here's a look at some successful NFL running backs who weren't known for their elite speed: 
Successful NFL Running Backs with 4.65 or Slower 40-Times:
  • Le'Veon Bell
    : A patient runner with excellent vision and receiving skills, Bell ran a 4.60. He was known for his unique running style, which involved hesitation moves and changes of direction at the line of scrimmage.
  • Kareem Hunt
    : Hunt, with a 4.62, showcased impressive contact balance and the ability to break tackles. His ability to gain yards after contact was a major factor in his success.
  • James Conner
    : Conner ran a 4.65 and has proven to be a powerful and determined runner, excelling in short-yardage situations and as a receiver. His determination and resilience, both on and off the field, have made him a fan favorite.
  • Alfred Morris
    : Morris, with a 4.67, relied on his vision, footwork, and downhill running style to achieve success in the NFL. He was known for his consistency and reliability, especially during his early years with the Washington Redskins.
  • Arian Foster
    : Foster ran a 4.69 and was an exceptional talent, showcasing great vision, agility, and receiving skills. His intelligence and understanding of the game allowed him to excel despite not having top-end speed.
  • Eddie Lacy
    : While Lacy's career was impacted by weight issues, he had moments of brilliance, running a 4.64, showcasing his power and ability to break tackles. When in shape, Lacy was a force to be reckoned with, combining power with surprising agility for his size. 

Why These Running Backs Succeeded Despite Slower 40 Times:
  • Vision and Elusiveness: Many successful running backs with slower 40 times, like Bell and Foster, compensate with exceptional vision and the ability to make defenders miss in tight spaces. Their ability to anticipate holes and change direction quickly is more valuable than pure speed.
  • Power and Contact Balance: Players like Lacy and Conner have the strength and contact balance to break tackles and gain yards after contact.
  • Pass-Catching Ability: Several of these backs are excellent receivers, adding another dimension to their game and making them valuable assets in the passing game.
  • Football IQ and Instincts: Intelligence and a deep understanding of the game can often make up for a lack of top-end speed, allowing these players to make smart decisions and maximize their opportunities. 

In conclusion, while speed is a valuable asset for NFL running backs, it's not the only factor determining success. Vision, elusiveness, power, receiving skills, and football IQ can all contribute to a productive NFL career, even for players who may not be the fastest on the field. 
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Quote from: MightyGiants on May 22, 2025, 09:11:18 AM@jimc and @Philosophers

My excitement for Skattebo is based on what I saw on tape and the reality that Skattebo was their offense.  That was all opposing defenses were focused on stopping and they consistently failed as Skattebo (unlike the highly touted QBs and some of the highly touted RBs) led his team to the college playoffs.

As for the 40 time (really the only measure that was an outlier) consider this from Google AI


While a blazing 40-yard dash time is often associated with NFL running back success, several players have thrived despite running a 4.65 or slower at the NFL Combine. Here's a look at some successful NFL running backs who weren't known for their elite speed:
Successful NFL Running Backs with 4.65 or Slower 40-Times:
  • Le'Veon Bell
    : A patient runner with excellent vision and receiving skills, Bell ran a 4.60. He was known for his unique running style, which involved hesitation moves and changes of direction at the line of scrimmage.
  • Kareem Hunt
    : Hunt, with a 4.62, showcased impressive contact balance and the ability to break tackles. His ability to gain yards after contact was a major factor in his success.
  • James Conner
    : Conner ran a 4.65 and has proven to be a powerful and determined runner, excelling in short-yardage situations and as a receiver. His determination and resilience, both on and off the field, have made him a fan favorite.
  • Alfred Morris
    : Morris, with a 4.67, relied on his vision, footwork, and downhill running style to achieve success in the NFL. He was known for his consistency and reliability, especially during his early years with the Washington Redskins.
  • Arian Foster
    : Foster ran a 4.69 and was an exceptional talent, showcasing great vision, agility, and receiving skills. His intelligence and understanding of the game allowed him to excel despite not having top-end speed.
  • Eddie Lacy
    : While Lacy's career was impacted by weight issues, he had moments of brilliance, running a 4.64, showcasing his power and ability to break tackles. When in shape, Lacy was a force to be reckoned with, combining power with surprising agility for his size.

Why These Running Backs Succeeded Despite Slower 40 Times:
  • Vision and Elusiveness: Many successful running backs with slower 40 times, like Bell and Foster, compensate with exceptional vision and the ability to make defenders miss in tight spaces. Their ability to anticipate holes and change direction quickly is more valuable than pure speed.
  • Power and Contact Balance: Players like Lacy and Conner have the strength and contact balance to break tackles and gain yards after contact.
  • Pass-Catching Ability: Several of these backs are excellent receivers, adding another dimension to their game and making them valuable assets in the passing game.
  • Football IQ and Instincts: Intelligence and a deep understanding of the game can often make up for a lack of top-end speed, allowing these players to make smart decisions and maximize their opportunities.

In conclusion, while speed is a valuable asset for NFL running backs, it's not the only factor determining success. Vision, elusiveness, power, receiving skills, and football IQ can all contribute to a productive NFL career, even for players who may not be the fastest on the field.

Agree Rich.  We know he is not a speedster at NFL level.  We dont know if he has those attributes you listed at an NFL level.  Hoping he does.