Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 09, 2023, 01:07:02 PMBoomer hasn't exactly shown the credentials as one of the NFL's insiders, and none of the Giants beat writers or insiders have repeated this story.  As such, I am taking the report with a massive grain of salt (plus, JS said he wouldn't negotiate after the bye)

Don't blame you for that stance at all. It needs to be taken with a grain of salt right now. But I wouldnt call Esasion incarcerated Bob or some off the wall shock jock either. He has pn occasion broken stuff before and apparently does have some local connections to the team. Just putting what he said out there and lets see if it actually comes to fruition!

Potential BIG news if true. But apparently Boomer Esiason said on his WFAN show this morning DJ and Giants are ALREADY close to an extension for him right now. The main detail they are hashing is whether it will be a 3 or 4 year deal.

Daniel if things continue in the direction they are bulding towards may have a VERY very strong next year.

-60-65M+ cap with Galloday post June 1 cut and possible other cap creating moves.

-Wink and Daboll getting a couple key guys to reshape/fortify the roster on both sides of the ball with players for their preffered vision of offense/defense.

-Year 2 of Daboll/Kafka . Player familiarity with system along with key rookies maturing (Neal, Thibodeaux, WanDale? etc)

https://youtu.be/8ijZKae3l4k

https://youtube.com/shorts/RwW9fyLT5no?feature=share

https://youtu.be/quZP4xLWa3U

One thing is clear about Jones. He's a good quarterback. He's not even close to his potential given the roster and first season with new coach and coordinator. He's tough as nails, and teammates will go to war for that dude every week. And we saw Hurts go from a guy people were outright wondering about to a possible MVP when he got an elite veteran WR in a good system under Sirianni.

Quote from: Trench on January 05, 2023, 06:26:39 PMFair enough BF....but as far as the..."folks who have a dislike for #8" stuff - isn't that ok???....why keep pushing?....and saying to "open your eyes first" is a personal attack and our leaders on this board have stated personal attacks will not tolerated. Let's enjoy this January football.

Trench...fair enough... I'm done with the retorts but keep in mind 9 times out of 10 Im just responding to someone else initiating.

Quote from: Trench on January 05, 2023, 05:14:40 PMBlue - everyone to a man has given Jones the props he deserves. In fact the "not sure" camp (me) have consistently hoped he would become the guy. That may be happening before our eyes. Sometimes it only takes a game or a situation to teach an athlete how to "slow it down" and I hope we are witnessing that.

However, please consider refraining from posting something that wasn't actually said as fact. It doesn't help.

Yes Trench I applaud you coming around on Jones in lieu of the quite obvious things we see on the field now. At least you are fully acknowledging them! Thats great it really is. However everyone to a man is certainly not the case. There are folks whether in this forum or in the general fandom populace that still have this unhealthy dislike for #8 which at this point cant even be based remotely on what you are seeing on the field anymore.

As for the title...Once again I posted the title of the video itself. Not my title. If you have a problem with it take it up with the youtube channel. 

THE HERD | Greg Cosell tells Colin: Daniel Jones is the best
QB that can win NFC under Brian Daboll

https://youtu.be/DbUO3-SdTOY

Cosell: Daboll comfortable with Jones throwing 45 times....By the way with a Very average core of WRs behind a revolving door offensive line

Quote from: T200 on January 04, 2023, 11:07:36 PMI wouldn't say it's all coaching. The players have done an excellent job with execution in the red zone. They deserve the lion's share of the credit.

Coaching ultimately puts the players in best position to succeed. So yes while the players are doing it the coaches have put them in the proper position to shine.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on January 04, 2023, 12:22:34 PMLast year the Giants were dead last, 32nd, in red zone scoring at 44.74%.

This year the Giants are 7th in the league at 63.83%.

Coaching, coaching, coaching.

Jordan Raanan- DJ debate is over after Giants clinch playoffs

This Giants' new regime was always a fan of Jones. They liked his physical skills and makeup. But they still needed him to prove it on the field in order for them to want to commit to anything in the future. A team source said this summer they would have been open to an in-season extension or the franchise tag if he played well this year. The latter now realistically seems on the table.

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/64194/the-daniel-jones-debate-is-over-after-giants-clinch-playoffs

Quote from: ps11yat14 on January 02, 2023, 04:32:47 PMI heard Bob Papa and Carl Banks discuss this same thing. Said the defense knew the play before it was run and every time the play didn't work DJ would walk over to the coaches and ask what he did wrong and what did he have to do to fix it. He never got mad, never lost his composer and always remained consistent with just working to get better.

Bill

Wow #8 is a player that I think is going to have almost evry fan on the bandwagon before too much longer. DG made a lot of mistakes granted but picks 2, 4 and 6 were not among them. He nailed those.

Quote from: y_so_blu on January 02, 2023, 03:23:06 PMI must admit that two of the players I doubted most, have done the most to prove me wrong this season.

The first is, you guessed it, Daniel Jones. I initially had high hopes for him, perhaps unreasonably high. How much of it was him and how much of it was poor coaching will be debated endlessly, but the bottom line is he was not putting the team on his back like we needed him to.

This year is different. Daniel is growing into the role. He's felt pressure coming, cut down on the turnovers, and helped us win when opponents shut down the run. Those are the biggest issues I had with him, and he's addressed all three.

The second player is Kayvon Thibodeaux. I thought he had bust written all over him, and said so. He's made me eat those words. The stats don't tell the story because he gets held constantly, but the guy is beasting. Seeing him live is downright scary; he seems to tower over everyone else on the field.

I would much rather see us win and be proven wrong than lose even more and be proven right. Another helping of crow, please! 

Wonderfully put good Sir...

Quote from: Ed Vette on January 02, 2023, 10:05:46 AMI absolutely believe that was the best Jones has played in his career and although the passing yards weren't there, he took this team on his back and was the key component in the Offense. It wasn't flashy but it was exceptional.

Looking at that list, it's worth noting how many times Patrick Mahomes is up there. That's also exceptional. Same with the Rookie and backup QB's.

The way he looked in command of the offense was a thing of beauty. Very little panicked made many great plays on script AND (perhaps more importantly) off script as well. Love the two TDs passes in consecutive weeks we he is flushed out, doesnt panic, rolls to his right toward the line of scrimmage and then straddles it with guys bearing down on him and then calmly finds the open reciever for a TD in the EZ.