Quote from: Trench on Today at 12:55:25 PMI will clarify as u are correct - Jones AND the other QBs. Certainly don't wanna upset the jones or bust club
Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 01:16:26 PM"So, perhaps unfairly, he lands here, capped, in a way, by the lingering uncertainty around what Daniel Jones will bring to the table."
Where in that is there hate? You automatically assume he is speaking to Jones play when he could simply be speaking about his health. So without knowing the context it is beyond ridiculous to assume the guy is slamming Jones.
The author brings up major players for every team that the player is going to. They bring up A Rodgers on the Hassan Reddick trade, all the Titans offensive weapons when discussing the Sneed trade, and so on. Jones was not singled out or treated any different than anyone else in the article.
Lingering uncertainty to what Jones brings to the table is more than likely referring to his health.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 11:20:04 AMMy original point was that you had people on this forum saying the Giants were going to be "something special" in 2023 based on their observations over the summer through the preseason, and that the eventual reality on the ground was in stark contrast to that. I further noted that that disconnect has occurred plenty of times in the past, both with us and with other fan bases around the league. I specifically noted the disconnect between the intense optimism seen here and the woefully poor performance in week one, which is generally the most reflective week of how well prepared the team was over the various stages of camp and the preseason.
You seemed to disagree with (and want to discredit) my observation by pointing out that Waller, who played the whole game and for another 7 weeks after that, wasn't 100% perfectly healthy and that Andrew Thomas missed some of the game. I personally don't agree that those two issues are why we lost 40-0 or that had every relevant member of the team been 100% healthy (an extreme rarity for any NFL team in any game), that things would have been dramatically different in that game.
To me that game illustrated a lack of preparation of the team and also the team's lack of overall talent and depth. To isolate one or two injuries, even to starters, simply does not debunk the above.
Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 01:22:39 PMGuys - almost all of the pressure in the Dallas game came from the right side of the OL. Thomas and Waller would not have mattered. Neal got destroyed by 9 tech edges and 5-7 tech twists.
Quote from: CVA14 on Today at 01:15:03 PMMighty your first para suggests that except for his height he has the raw material to become a pass rusher, doesn't it
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 11:11:35 AMI am not sure what the point of that extreme binary question is. Are you suggesting the offense wouldn't have looked significantly better with their two most important players healthy?
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 10:59:27 AMJess,"So, perhaps unfairly, he lands here, capped, in a way, by the lingering uncertainty around what Daniel Jones will bring to the table."
That wasn't a throwaway line, as you called it; that was an indication of the obsession and hatred some have for Daniel Jones, as there was no reasonable explanation for why the author felt the need to take that potshot. It's not like Burns is even an offensive player