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#21
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Better or Worse
Last post by Painter - Today at 12:07:49 PM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 11:19:48 AMEd,

I get your point, and I think Thibs and Burns are going to spend considerable more time trying to be get in the backfield then in coverage.  I could be wrong, but from what Daboll has said about being more of an "attacking" defense, I am guessing those guys will be deployed mostly as penetrators. 

Burns did not grade out as a good run defender which, for me, is why your question/point is a good one. 

I can't help but see another Buffalo similarity here.  Buffalo's DL likes to get up field and disrupt.  And they have mostly been good at it.  Seems like that's the direction Daboll wants this D to go.

Wink's approach was of little benefit to the Giants Rushing Defense whereas Bowen's has had a good history in that area. As for what Burns may or may not bring to the table, it's hard to imagine that Bowen played no role in the decision to trade for him. We shall see, I reckon.

Cheers!
#22
Big Blue Huddle / Re: PFF ranks the Giants’ offe...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 11:44:48 AM2019, a middling Oline and a 4-12 season. Then the dink and dunk of 2022, only to get spanked by the Eagles in the playoffs. You glossed over the point. He will NEVER win this team a SB Trophy. Do I need to repeat myself? OK
"Jones will win games as I always said he could and be a better Regular season QB than Eli, and then choke in the playoffs."

How did Jones get to the position to be "spanked" by the Eagles in the playoffs?
#23
Big Blue Huddle / Re: NFT: NY Rangers 2023 - 202...
Last post by files58 - Today at 11:45:36 AM
I didn't watch the game, had an event to go to. Lucky for me, saved my voice from yelling at the tv.The extra day will help them settle down. Anyway I envisioned them winning this series in their white jerseys. From what I hear they again let Carolina skate through center ice. No, no, no, no, no. OPEN ICE BODY CHECKS. These are the playoffs. One can get away with a lot of stuff. See Sam Bennet on Marchand. What this team is missing is a Jamie Benn, or JT Miller(never wanted to see him traded). That guy who will step up and lay the wood into a key opponent. Remember what Messier did to Stevens in Game 2 in 94'. They should bang shots off the Canes like in an arcade game. Give no quarter, Attila the Hun during the game, and right after Mother Theresa while shaking hands. The only goal is to get one's name inscribed on the Cup. There is not one name on the chalice that indicates whether one is a Lady Bing type, or Hanson Bros. type. Not one. As far as winning a Cup, I'm Machiavellian.
#24
Big Blue Huddle / Re: PFF ranks the Giants’ offe...
Last post by Ed Vette - Today at 11:44:48 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 11:22:42 AMPFF Rankings

year -- Pass blocking --- receiving
2023 -- 32nd -- 32nd
2022 -- 24th -- 27th
2021 -- 30th -- 31st
2020 -- 32nd -- 25th
2019 -- 16th -- 17th

The best DJ had was his rookie season when his on-field support was slightly below the mean.  The rest of the time DJ has had bottom 3rd (and even dead last) support both in protection and receiving.

I don't see how, from that data, we can conclude that DJ needs "top 10" to be effective.  I think accusations of making excuses hide the unrealistic expectations of those making the accusations.

DJ is like a car you stumble across with two flat tires.  The engine starts, but that's all you can learn about the car because you can't drive it with two flats.  Now, it's possible that once you fix the flats, it will turn out that the transmission is shot, and the car is still useless.  However, until you fix the flat tires, there is no way to know what the car fully does.  That's what you have with DJ.  Until you give him half a chance, you can't say with any certainty what you have.
2019, a middling Oline and a 4-12 season. Then the dink and dunk of 2022, only to get spanked by the Eagles in the playoffs. You glossed over the point. He will NEVER win this team a SB Trophy. Do I need to repeat myself? OK
"Jones will win games as I always said he could and be a better Regular season QB than Eli, and then choke in the playoffs."
#25
The Front Porch / Re: Baseball rules
Last post by LennG - Today at 11:42:17 AM
You are both now correct.
Once time has been called, in order to continue play or just put the ball in play, the pitcher has to go back on the runner and the umpire indicate the ball is now in play.

Since that never happened it is illegal. You can never do the hidden ball trick once time has been called.
#26
Big Blue Huddle / Re: B/R Summary of Giants Rost...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 11:37:23 AM
When I hear pundits talk about signing veterans, I am reminded of the Packer's philosophy.  You don't see the Packers signing veteran hole fillers because such players serve to impede the development of homegrown talent.   In other words, signing Apple means that the pool of young CBs (Flott, Phillips, Hawkins, and McCloud) will have fewer snaps to develop.   Signing a veteran RB means drafted RBs like Tracy and Gray will have fewer snaps to develop.

Unless you believe your team is SB or bust, it's best to roll with your young players and let them develop.
#27
Big Blue Huddle / Re: NFT: NY Rangers 2023 - 202...
Last post by ViewFromSection129 - Today at 11:28:23 AM
Rangers fans were WAY too optimistic after the first three games of the series.  All were one goal wins, and two in OT.  Taking nothing away from the Rangers, as they did win, but they were not dominant in any way. 

Starting in game three especially, the Canes played with a ton of energy, purpose, and desperation.  As you would expect.  Rangers matched them pretty well in game three and won.  Didn't match them nearly as well in game four, but again, you would expect that a team down 0-3 would have a ton more energy and desperation.  And a team up 3-0 might let up a bit (even though you never should take your foot off your opponent's neck, but alas, we are human too).  Even so, except for a late penalty, we could have won.

Once they lost their first game of the playoffs, I then expected game five to have them come out looking to obliterate the Canes and for the garden to be rocking.  Neither happened.  The garden seemed quiet all night (maybe it was the ESPN audio, who knows) and the Rangers were completely listless.  Zero energy, zero offensive pressure.  I don't remember one shot on goal, except the Trouba shorty, that was a high danger shot.  And ZERO physicality, except for the Trouba hit.  This is not the old Rangers teams from the past that were small and pushed around.  Kreider, Trocheck, LaFren, Cuylle, Vesey, Rempe, Goodrow, Lindgren, Schneider, Trouba... all bigger / chippier / willing to mix it up guys, and virtually NONE were to be seen.  If the Canes want to dump and chase and hit the Rangers D, not to mention take some liberties, then I expect these guys to stand up and pummel them into the boards.  But they are letting the Canes be physical with them and have zero pushback.

This team BETTER be flying in Game 6.  Better be hitting everything that moves.  Better be driving play.  The time is now for them to be desperate, aggressive, angry.  Because this is very close to a winner take all game seven, and after the third period last night, the Canes believe 100% they can win this.  Including that arrogant punk ass DeAngelo.  Time to take care of business.... and this will be just a blip.  That this was a good thing for them to get punched in the mouth and have some adversity to overcome... better to have that when you are up 3-0 than in the next round when you don't have as much cushion.  But this team needs a leader and I am not sure we have someone that can even partially emulate Messier and get them through this.

Sorry for the length of this..... I needed to vent.
#28
Big Blue Huddle / Re: PFF ranks the Giants’ offe...
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 11:26:34 AM
Quote from: Trench on Today at 10:31:50 AMPFF = Click bait

It's not just PFF.  You'd be hard pressed to find a projected 2024 ranking of o-lines that doesn't have the Giants in the bottom 5.  I've looked.
#29
Big Blue Huddle / B/R Summary of Giants Roster A...
Last post by Painter - Today at 11:25:43 AM
Key Offseason Additions: Edge Brian Burns, OT Jermaine Eluemunor, QB Drew Lock, WR Isaiah McKenzie, DB Jalen Mills, DL Jordan Phillips, G Jon Runyan, RB Devin Singletary, WR Malik Nabers, S Tyler Nubin

Notable Departures: RB Saquon Barkley, S Xavier McKinney, DL A'Shawn Robinson, QB Tyrod Taylor, DL Jihad Ward

Remaining Team Needs: RB, TE, CB

Cap Space: $6.2 Million  Doesn't likely reflect $11.6 million cap saving from a post June 1 release of Darren Waller. 

Realistic Targets: RB Kareem Hunt, TE Robert Tonyan Jr., CB Eli Apple

The New York Giants opted not to draft a new quarterback in 2024, though they did make a push for North Carolina's Drake Maye.

"The Giants, hot for quarterback Drake Maye, put their bid in — believed to be the No. 6 pick this year, their second-round pick (No. 47 overall) and their 2025 first-round pick," Paul Schwartz of the New York Post wrote.

The Patriots didn't bite on New York's offer and instead took Maye for themselves. This leaves the Giants looking at a season of Daniel Jones, Drew Lock or some combination of the two at quarterback.

The good news is that the Giants are finally equipped to give their quarterbacks a strong supporting cast. Jermaine Eluemunor and Jon Runyan will help solidify the offensive line, while rookie Malik Nabers should be the No. 1 wideout New York has lacked.

Offensively, the biggest remaining challenge will be trying to replace do-it-all running back Saquon Barkley. Devin Singletary is poised to be the new starter, but the Giants will likely employ a committee approach.

Adding Kareem Hunt would give New York a viable short-yardage and goal-line back to round out that committee.

The Giants could also use insurance at tight end, as 2023 addition Darren Waller continues to mull retirement. An experienced pass-catcher like Robert Tonyan Jr. would provide solid depth alongside Daniel Bellinger and rookie fourth-round pick Theo Johnson.

Defensively, the Giants should continue addressing a secondary that ranked 24th in net yards per pass attempt allowed last season. They might not have the cap space to pursue a top cornerback, but they could likely afford a reunion with Eli Apple.

Apple was a role player in Miami last season, but after New York traded him in 2018, he became a reliable starter for the Saints and Bengals.

Eli Apple??

Their opinion, but not unreasonable.
Cheers!
#30
Big Blue Huddle / Re: PFF ranks the Giants’ offe...
Last post by MightyGiants - Today at 11:22:42 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 10:56:25 AMMaybe you haven't capitulated but I'm done with all the excuses. I supported his draft pick because he was the best QB to choose from. 2 years later it was obvious what we had, 6 years later I see him here the next two years or more. He's going to need a top-ten Oline to thrive here. Otherwise, it's dink and dunk, dink and dunk... freeze and duck, freeze and duck. I'm very disappointed in this regime right now. Maybe after a few wins, I'll be in a better mood. Unless of course, the schedule is a 2023 killer to start the season, the oline fails, he get injured through no fault of the Oline and the Defense fails to defend. Did I miss anything? 

PFF Rankings

year -- Pass blocking --- receiving
2023 -- 32nd -- 32nd
2022 -- 24th -- 27th
2021 -- 30th -- 31st
2020 -- 32nd -- 25th
2019 -- 16th -- 17th

The best DJ had was his rookie season when his on-field support was slightly below the mean.  The rest of the time DJ has had bottom 3rd (and even dead last) support both in protection and receiving.

I don't see how, from that data, we can conclude that DJ needs "top 10" to be effective.  I think accusations of making excuses hide the unrealistic expectations of those making the accusations.

DJ is like a car you stumble across with two flat tires.  The engine starts, but that's all you can learn about the car because you can't drive it with two flats.  Now, it's possible that once you fix the flats, it will turn out that the transmission is shot, and the car is still useless.  However, until you fix the flat tires, there is no way to know what the car fully does.  That's what you have with DJ.  Until you give him half a chance, you can't say with any certainty what you have.
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