Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Philosophers on May 21, 2024, 10:24:06 AMHe's not so special that if the OL only allows a very short amount of time before a QB gets hit that he will be effective.  NFL CBs can tie him early for a split second to screw up any effectiveness.  It's about the OL. 

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Flott is skinny - no two ways about it. And given he has only gained 2-3 pounds in over two years now since the 2022 combine, it's reasonable to assume he's not going to get much bigger (maybe something like 180/182 is possible).

Being slight doesn't preclude him being a respectable or even good player, but it is clearly not an advantage, either. We should keep in mind that it's not like we took this guy in the top 15 overall though. Mid third round is not typically where you find high-end starting corners. Maybe he's just a solid depth guy. If that's what he ends up being, I'd say that's not a bad outcome at all for a corner taken outside of the top 80 overall.

Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 01:49:42 PMIt's his weight for his height.

Float is 6' 1/2" so he should be in the range I listed

Quote from: Trench on Today at 02:25:42 PMI think he was speaking rhetorically. And I also really didn't see anyone being critical but I do notice and like the fact that jones is defended by many no matter what. That isn't a bad thing.

The solid majority of fans on this forum are very knowledgeable.   So I (and I assume @AZGiantFan  ) both see stating the obvious, that throwing well in OTAs does not guarantee success come September, as needless and it feels like it's said just so one can say something negative about the guy (it also feels a bit belittling as I certainly didn't need to be told about the meaning of OTAs).  Maybe I am wrong, and there was another reason it was said.   Maybe there has been just so much arguing and ill-feelings on this subject that there is over-sensitivity.

I don't understand the drew lock acquisition

Tommy has already proven he can carry the team if asked

Lock on the other hand has proved nothing in the NFL

I definitely think Neal should at least be given a shot at guard if he fails again at tackle. There is no reason to let him go because he can't play tackle, only to see him be a respectable to good guard somewhere else. They did that with Flowers and it was a bit embarrassing. They also played Flowers at tackle, watching him fail miserably over and over, for far too long. They should have tried him at guard in the third year when it was continuing to not work at tackle. Both are lessons to draw on.

Quote from: jgrangers2 on Today at 02:53:49 PMLooking like it might be:

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Really not a fan of sitting Kakko but whatever

It's hard to argue with the record the team has had with Rempe in the lineup.

If one were to say it's a total coincidence, I can completely accept that line of reasoning, but what one cannot really do (given the results) is convincingly argue that he significantly hurts the team when he is in the lineup.

I also think it's interesting that people like Messier have publicly said he should play. I'm not sure there is any living person who knows a great deal more about the ingredients needed to win in the postseason than that guy.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on Today at 02:43:54 PMRos been demoted? I thought he was skating with CK and Zibs?

Looking like it might be:

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Really not a fan of sitting Kakko but whatever

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 02:28:46 PMI think it has to be, yes. And I'm ok with that. The guy has done nothing. I wouldn't mess around with the Wennberg/Cuylle/Roslovic line.

Ros been demoted? I thought he was skating with CK and Zibs?

Quote from: Gmo11 on Today at 10:16:52 AMSo why haven't any of them been corrected after two years of disgusting play?  You'd think by now we'd have seen some signs of life but he's as bad as he's ever been.  I agree he's not the prototype guard but neither was Flowers and that guy was at the very least serviceable once Washington moved him to guard.  He was as bad as Neal is now at tackle.  I don't know if Neal will be any good at guard.  He could be just as bad or worse.  But I would like to see it before I dismiss it.

I'm sure when they or if they give up on him at Tackle they will try him at Guard or his next Gig will. I'm not even cautiously optimistic about that.