Big Blue Huddle

It's still kinda wild in 2024 that the police arrest first and think later.

Quote from: bamagiantfan on Today at 10:40:14 AMThe stats do lie though. Phil Simms would often say the stats in the NFL lie and the QBs get too much credit and too much blame for winning and losing. Manning could look lost, confused - even pathetic at times and then suddenly he would figure some things out and make every play necessary to beat teams. We all saw it. All of it. Jones hasn't taken that step yet in my opinion. Unlike others, I think he can and will.

I think it all boils down to his explosives/big time throws. If he can elevate his game to even 15th in Explosives and BTTR this season we could really do some things.

Jones isn't a bad qb, and he's not a great one either but he could be good enough which is all we really need currently.

Quote from: Philosophers on May 28, 2024, 06:03:10 PMJess - for a team to be aggressive offensively it takes a coach to trust the offense, a QB with a big play mindset but also trust in the defense to stop the other team if a big play misses causing a punt.

Do we have all that?

I think Daboll will trust the offense he runs as it has worked multiple other places. I think the defense will be the definition of bend don't break. Hopefully Jones, with less mobility focuses dowmfield more often.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-explosive-plays-and-re-thinking-offensive-success

Amazing read if you are into analytics and a real thought provoking read as we see how Daboll has built this offense.

Every position now has a piece capable of an explosive play whether its Nabers, Wan Dale, Slayton, Waller, and Singletary.

Singletary finished 13th in explosives last season despite less opportunities.

We have been horrible at EPA, Explosives, and Big time throws.

In Buffalo Daboll had Allen reaching tops in Explosives, BTTR, and EPA. You add that context to the team we've built, and you can tell he's laying a foundation.

If Dex, Burns, and Thibs light it up then it will allow Bobby Ok to feast and do what he does best. He's easily the best pure Mike in the Division already and was low key the best player on the field last season.

I heard a good comp for Tracy Jr the other day, and it was Cordarelle Patterson. A RB2 that can give you 600 yards rushing, 200 yards receiving, and handle kickoff duties.

People criminally underestimate the value Tyrod brought to the team.

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 27, 2024, 03:48:37 PMLOL ok whatever.....Taylor had the best arm of the bunch but had decision issues.
I don't get the non-issue part though

Do you see Tyrod returning somehow?  The Buffalo guys loved Tyrod and grossly overpaid him

You have no idea what you are talking about. Tyrod Taylor led the NFL in BTTR last year. Meaning he completed the hardest throws with the highest value of any qb in the league last year.

It's the reason that Devito was benched. Tyrod Taylor was easily the best option we had and it wasn't close analytically.

1st graph shows just how good tyrod was vs the league in big time throws.

2nd graph shows EPA after being adjusted for how bad a qbs pass protection, skill players etc and you can see how big of a difference Tyrod was vs Devito.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 27, 2024, 12:25:25 PMOnce again I'm sure you're a nice person in real life, but let's think about this.

The reason why Tom Brady was able to start at QB was because Drew Bledsoe got injured. If Bledsoe never got injured, Brady never would have played.

If BB had started a 6th rd pick in Brady over Bledsoe in 2001 he would have been fired.

The same applies to Devito.

If Daboll and Schoen bench DJ for Devito, an undrafted player, and have him start the season and he fails it would be a fireable offense, and there is no way Daboll and Schoen would do that.

They already benched Devito last year for Taylor so it's a non-issue.

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 27, 2024, 07:37:18 AMLets hope that does not happen.  Do you really want to hang your hat on Jones and Drew Lock?   Last year I believe DeVito pretty much ran the team in pre-season.  He started 6-7 more games during the season.   In that respect he is our most seasoned QB using 2023  data. 

He looks the part out there.  Jones looked tentative and lost before injury. He. basically could not move the team downfield.   I have no idea what Lock brings to the party.

There is definitely a bias towards tall, strong QBs- Tom Brady, Josh Allen, Eli Manning types.  That overlooks the fact Joe Montana, Drew Brees, Dan Marino, and Fran Tarkenton were not overly tall and populate the top 10 QBs of all time list.

In todays NFL you sink or swim with the QB.  I'd prefer to not sink because of tall man bias.

Drew Lock smashed Devito in almost every single analytical measure last year.  Hence why we signed him.

We should have hired spags and paired a Kyle Shanahan or someone like that as his OC so that spags could just focus on defense.

Flott is not going to wow in practice but he's a gamer. I don't remember if I've seen him make egregious errors or be called out by the announce team. He's kinda like J Love in that he doesn't do anything special but just a good ball player.

The two biggest stats for me this season for the QB position will be EPA and BTTR. If those two go up we will likely win some games.

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 24, 2024, 03:23:41 PMI don't understand the drew lock acquisition

Tommy has already proven he can carry the team if asked

Lock on the other hand has proved nothing in the NFL

Devito carried a water bottle to the bench with him at the end of last season.

Quote from: Philosophers on May 25, 2024, 06:04:08 PMIsn't 29% really high?

Yeah but I don't know if it's relative to games played that season because he started less than most.