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Quote from: MightyGiants on February 11, 2024, 07:39:43 AMMichigan true freshman QB J.J. McCarthy throws mind blowing 69 yard touchdown

The best part of that throw was how good his body mechanics remained knowing he was going to get clobbered after he throws it.  Throwing under fire.  Oh yeah and that throw.  Ridiculous.  How about seeing him on the opposite side of the field?  That is all the stuff you dont or cant teach. 

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 11, 2024, 07:43:47 AM@Jclayton92 mentioned Burrow

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His layering of his velocity and touch are next level. The way he manipulates defenders with his eyes, as well as his high low processing of reads is honestly ridiculous. People that watch the film on him will eventually come around.

- Wins at an unprecedented level
- Just turned 21 20 days ago
- exceptional processing
- high level mobility
- Can Coach up
- Hasn't even touched his ceiling
- Cannon for an arm
- Cerebral Qb that sees the whole field
- Crazy touch and ability to lead

You can get all of that with our #6 pick, you don't have to give up the farm, you don't have to really do anything. At the end of the day I don't know how you don't take that chance if there's even a 30-40% chance that he becomes the equivalent of a Burrow.

Quote from: Philosophers on February 11, 2024, 09:50:46 AMThe best part of that throw was how good his body mechanics remained knowing he was going to get clobbered after he throws it.  Throwing under fire.  Oh yeah and that throw.  Ridiculous.  How about seeing him on the opposite side of the field?  That is all the stuff you dont or cant teach. 

Plus all of that was from a young man just out of high school

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 11, 2024, 10:00:41 AMPlus all of that was from a young man just out of high school

Yes, how could I forget that?

Quote from: Jclayton92 on February 11, 2024, 09:57:46 AMHis layering of his velocity and touch are next level. The way he manipulates defenders with his eyes, as well as his high low processing of reads is honestly ridiculous. People that watch the film on him will eventually come around.

- Wins at an unprecedented level
- Just turned 21 20 days ago
- exceptional processing
- high level mobility
- Can Coach up
- Hasn't even touched his ceiling
- Cannon for an arm
- Cerebral Qb that sees the whole field
- Crazy touch and ability to lead

You can get all of that with our #6 pick, you don't have to give up the farm, you don't have to really do anything. At the end of the day I don't know how you don't take that chance if there's even a 30-40% chance that he becomes the equivalent of a Burrow.

You summed up his qualities nicely.  I get it that Jim Harbaugh was speaking highly of "his" guy when he said recently that he thinks JJ can be the first QB off the board, but I think he is really saying it because of those intangibles.  It's so clear to me that JJ received very good coaching in high school and growing up but that he also listened really well.  Unlike so many players, he likes to be coached.  I think that's why he and Jim Harbaugh connected so well as coach and player.  It does not hurt that JJ got NFL coaching in college either playing in an NFL style offense and practicing daily against an NFL style defense.  Like I said in another post, maybe he does not become a top QB like a Joe Burrow, but his floor is very high.  It's not like he will be a JaMarcus Russell or Akili Smith.  No way.  Those guys had great athleticism but nothing between the ears.  I happen to think his ceiling (as you noted) is not even close to being reached yet.

Quote from: Philosophers on February 11, 2024, 10:31:42 AMYou summed up his qualities nicely.  I get it that Jim Harbaugh was speaking highly of "his" guy when he said recently that he thinks JJ can be the first QB off the board, but I think he is really saying it because of those intangibles.  It's so clear to me that JJ received very good coaching in high school and growing up but that he also listened really well.  Unlike so many players, he likes to be coached.  I think that's why he and Jim Harbaugh connected so well as coach and player.  It does not hurt that JJ got NFL coaching in college either playing in an NFL style offense and practicing daily against an NFL style defense.  Like I said in another post, maybe he does not become a top QB like a Joe Burrow, but his floor is very high.  It's not like he will be a JaMarcus Russell or Akili Smith.  No way.  Those guys had great athleticism but nothing between the ears.  I happen to think his ceiling (as you noted) is not even close to being reached yet.

I also really like that he's fearless, he thinks he's that guy, which is why he occasionally will push his limits and throw into crazy tight windows or double coverage because he believes in his ability.

After what we've dealt with the past few years with not going through progressions, timidness in throwing beyond 5 yards, or moving into pressure in the pocket. It's exciting to hope for someone with the moxy to go deep and believe he can get it there every time.

McCarthy will end up a top ten pick and very well might supplant either Maye or Daniels as a top three. The Giants will have an opportunity at 6 to get one of the four of they want to.

I can't help but wonder how much of this recently surging Giants fan love-fest with McCarthy is driven by the fact that the consensus top three QBs in the class will almost certainly be gone when we pick and unavailable through trade. Would we have a 12 page thread about this guy if we were picking 2nd overall? I tend to highly doubt it.

By the way, I'm not saying McCarthy won't be good. He may be good or even great. But I think a lot of Giants fans are kind of subconsciously talking themselves into falling in love with him. If we were picking in the top 2 or top 3 I don't think this would have happened. Just my two cents.

My latest Mock.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 11, 2024, 12:19:43 PMI can't help but wonder how much of this recently surging Giants fan love-fest with McCarthy is driven by the fact that the consensus top three QBs in the class will almost certainly be gone when we pick and unavailable through trade. Would we have a 12 page thread about this guy if we were picking 2nd overall? I tend to highly doubt it.

By the way, I'm not saying McCarthy won't be good. He may be good or even great. But I think a lot of Giants fans are kind of subconsciously talking themselves into falling in love with him. If we were picking in the top 2 or top 3 I don't think this would have happened. Just my two cents.

I would be happy with Maye or McCarthy.  I will be more than happy to see Williams (boom or bust type prospect) and Daniels (A one-year wonder) come off the board before the Giants pick.

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 11, 2024, 12:24:12 PMI would be happy with Maye or McCarthy.  I will be more than happy to see Williams (boom or bust type prospect) and Daniels (A one-year wonder) come off the board before the Giants pick.

Out of curiosity, what do you not like about Daniels?

Quote from: Ed Vette on February 11, 2024, 12:22:22 PMMy latest Mock.

Ed I would be very happy with this draft. I am big on Braelon Allen.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 11, 2024, 12:27:03 PMOut of curiosity, what do you not like about Daniels?

For me:

Daniels
Maye
McCarthy

in this order

How about this one with no trades? Daniels unavailable.

Quote from: Ed Vette on February 11, 2024, 12:32:31 PMHow about this one with no trades? Daniels unavailable.

Ed both your drafts contain an EDGE and DL, to me both are desperately needed moving forward. And depending on what happens with Xavier McKinney, Safety could turn into a great need