Big Blue Huddle

I don't know either guy involved, but have a hunch there is a little culpability on both sides.   Seems like a situation that could have been easily avoided. 

Quote from: LennG on Today at 12:17:14 PMThat is ONE side of the story, I have not heard the police officer's side. Why do certain people always believe the one side that sort of suits their agenda?

Anyway, still doesn't answer why whoever didn't obey the command of the officer, no matter how silly, stupid, or irrelevant.
Great, you may be in the right, but you also could be injured or even shot dead because you have no idea what is going thru the officer's mind at that particular moment.

Do you look both ways crossing a street even if you have the right of way? Do you really believe every car will stop because you are in a crosswalk and the law says cars must stop? You could be 100% in the right, but you will also be injured or dead.

No matter how silly, stupid, or whatever a police officer's command may be, you, as a citizen, are required to obey it and THEN sort if out.

Lenn,

In a sense, we sort of have heard the police's side of the story. They released an official police report detailing their account of the incident, and they brought charges against Scheffler. To me that qualifies as their "side" of the story.

As far as people auto-assuming things that suit an agenda, I know where you're coming from there, and I try not to always auto-assume the worst about cops until I have enough information where I feel that view is firmly backed up by facts. What I would say though is Scheffler has a pretty pristine reputation and is universally considered a great guy, a family guy, a person of faith, etc. He is the last person anyone would consider a trouble maker. While none of that guarantees he did not step over the line in this incident, his reputation probably earns him the benefit of the doubt, which, quite frankly, everyone accused of a crime in this country is entitled to.

Quote from: Sem on May 18, 2024, 09:18:39 PMLen, this reminds me of another MLB situation - runner on 1st and the batter hits the ball down the line and a fan touches the ball while it's in play, (and ultimately is kicked out of the stadium), and the hit is ruled a ground rule double. I've heard announcers in the past say that it's within the umpire's the discretion to allow the runner on first to score if, in the umpire's opinion, he would have scored had the fan not interfered. Yet I have never seen this happen, even when it's obvious the runner would have scored. I've only seen the runner on first get two bases and must stay at third.
Can you comment on this?

Steve

If it is within the umpire's ability to do so (which I really don't know it is), it will always be called a ground rule's double. If I am not mistaken, there is only one instance in the MLB rule book that authorizes 3 bases on a play and that is when a fielder throws his glove at a hit ball and makes contact with it. The batter is awarded 3 bases.

Quote from: GIANTS1 on Today at 08:22:48 AMthe answer above is b double play. runner cannot interfere with a fielder.

As I said, it is within the umpire's choice to call a DP, but that is rare. It would only be called if, in the umpire's judgment, the interference was intentional and done with the intent to stop a very possible DP. I can admit I have called it twice, in High School games, but again, you will get a major argument and you have to be positive about the so-called intent. But again, it is in the umpire's ability to do so.

 That is ONE side of the story, I have not heard the police officer's side. Why do certain people always believe the one side that sort of suits their agenda?

Anyway, still doesn't answer why whoever didn't obey the command of the officer, no matter how silly, stupid, or irrelevant.
Great, you may be in the right, but you also could be injured or even shot dead because you have no idea what is going thru the officer's mind at that particular moment.

Do you look both ways crossing a street even if you have the right of way? Do you really believe every car will stop because you are in a crosswalk and the law says cars must stop? You could be 100% in the right, but you will also be injured or dead.

No matter how silly, stupid, or whatever a police officer's command may be, you, as a citizen, are required to obey it and THEN sort if out.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 18, 2024, 02:34:40 PMIf you want smart, Mayim Bialik of The Big Bang Theory and Jeopardyshould do it for you.  She actually DOES have a doctorate in microbiology in real life.

AZRich: You understand me. Indeed, she may be the smartest of all people mentioned so far in this thread. Bob

He's the type of player that requires NFL knowledge, rarely possessed by college players).

You have to know how to use him momentum against him; otherwise, you've got a Lawrence Taylor type of situation.

You're not going to "bully" him; you gotta finesse him... big season ahead for the young man, IMO.

Bob

Quote from: President Rick on Today at 10:06:24 AMwhat are the dates??

 Not out yet Rick.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 18, 2024, 04:31:30 PMI know there have been exercise threads before, but I'm curious specifically about walking. Everyone knows how beneficial walking is, but plenty don't get enough. I have improved my walking total, but there is still room for improvement. 10,000 steps (the recommended daily amount) is approximately five miles. I'm curious if people here hit/exceed that total on a daily basis.

DB: "10,000 steps" is for old-timers like me. For you, I'd consider 20,000 steps (mostly on flat terrain).

By the way it's not really the number of steps that is important.

The important thing is to engage in a minimum of 45 minutes (but go for 1 hour) of elevated heart rate caused by slightly-more-than casual "strolling" (that means to ensure that you are pushing yourself at least slightly).

Bob

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 08:49:06 AM6)  Explosive plays-   The Giants lost Barkley, but frankly, he was living on reputation.   He wasn't providing the explosive plays a star provides either on the ground or through the air.  Malik Nabers will change that, and his presence will allow others like Robinson and Hyatt to join in on the fun.

So by drinking the Kool-Aid, this team will be going to the playoffs again like they did in 2022.

I'm leaning more to the overall attitude of @DaveBrown74 in that I don't see a rookie Nablers doing what you are hoping for, nor do I agree with your remarks about Barkley completely. To look at it differently, let's suppose Nabers was going to the Eagles instead of the Giants.  NOW I can see it happening. Conversely, Saquon IS INDEED going to the Eagles, and I expect him to suddenly "appear" two or three years "younger" than he did to you last season.

As for the playoffs, it will take at least 3-3 in the division (actually 4-3, but I'm trying to be lenient here) due to the fact that I believe the number of games we play on the road against solid teams is greater this year than last season.

Nevertheless, as for your overall outlook, I agree on balance and congratulate you for a nice post.

Bob