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#21
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Remember Giants QB Kyle L...
Last post by Painter - Today at 11:44:29 AM
There were better ways for both sides to have handled it. In any case, no biggie! Except, apparently, for insurance salesman Kyle Lauletta, who 5 years ago, Gettleman wrongly guessed might be worth more than 5 pass attempts for 0 yards and a pick, and I don't just mean The Pick he wasted in the 4th Round. 

Cheers!
#22
I blame the majority media for creating a "bash DJ" emotion among many fans. From the very get go of the draft when we took Daniel Jones, the talking heads (that's what they are because they are not coaches hired for their incredible insight, knowledge, and hands on development of QBs), went insane over the pick because (as all talking heads) they need appear profound in their knowledge so that fans actually buy their BS. Now, they (talking heads) are deeply invested in proving themselves right and will never let it go because they need the ego-boost that they are worthy of getting big bucks to tell fans what they should feel, rather than their own feelings about a player. The talking heads haven't let go of their hatred for Jones since the moment he was chosen. In so doing, they have converted a lot of fans into buying their BS

How many criticisms from talking heads talked negatively about Dak Prescott after his 14 fumbles and 10 interceptions in 2021 (in 12 games). Nary a complaint from talking heads about his ridiculous turnover rate (multiple times more than DJ) or about his salary. BTW, DJ had 7 fumbles in 21...literally half that of Prescott. Most likely, talking heads have the same shortsighted mindset that is, "all winning is done by the QB" and therefore, Prescott is worth his 4-year, $160 million contract, which includes no-trade and no-tag clauses  :-?? Could it be because Prescott plays behind a real NFL offensive line...or that their defense was excellent...or that their skill players were better than average?

Here's another interesting stat:

What QB had the most turnovers in their career?

NAME                    TO    % RATE
Brett Favre             363    7.1
Eli Manning            300    7.0
Drew Brees            285    7.6
Vinny Testaverde    278    6.9
Peyton Manning    268    7.7
Ben Roethlisberger  262    7.6
Tom Brady              260    7.4

BTW, the lowest TO rate is held by Kerry Collins

I guess what can be taken from that is that successful QBs tend to be gunslingers who take more chances than less successful QBs

Regardless...getting down on Carl Banks for being frustrated with the negative vibe, not only from fans, but from most media outlets, is a normal reaction. That same frustration is held by all the players on the team who have great faith in DJ, as do I

To sum it up:

I believe DJ is extremely talented (height, arm strength, highly mobile, accurate, etc), as do all the players on the team and the coaches. No one from the comfort of their couch, beer in hand, watching TV knows what DJ has been told to do, or even a hint of an idea how well or fast he processes information...even when they claim to be mind readers. And yeah, we are all well-aware that the team has sucked for a long time now. We don't need more stats to know that. Yet, not all of us believe a great QB can make a "less than mediocre team" to the Super Bowl, nor are we stuck in that "short-sighted" mindset that it's a "team game". All the regurgitated stats proving DJ sucks does not change anyone's opinion. The problem has been across the board and is not an overnight fix. Trying to convince the rest of us that we would be a winning team if we just drafted a different QB isn't changing minds

Oh well...so much for staying out of it...duhhh
#23
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Remember Giants QB Kyle L...
Last post by DaveBrown74 - Today at 11:35:44 AM
I like Scottie Scheffler and think he's a genuinely good guy, but this could have been avoided by simply complying with the initial instructions.
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The Front Porch / Re: Strands anyone?
Last post by DaveBrown74 - Today at 11:33:07 AM
Lazy of me.

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The Front Porch / Re: NYT "Connections" Game
Last post by DaveBrown74 - Today at 11:30:09 AM
Just couldn't do it today.

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#26
Big Blue Huddle / Re: The Drew Lock-Bo Nix compa...
Last post by Painter - Today at 11:11:14 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 17, 2024, 07:24:52 PMCall it as you wish, but I'm following this draft class that many pundits have crapped upon or hyped. It's the most interesting Draft class since 2004. You know where my chips are placed.

I know I must be missing something. But at this point, I can't see it being done except from the top of Mt. Everest in terms of any imputed relevance. Okay! I'll shut up.

Cheers!
#27
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Remember Giants QB Kyle L...
Last post by Doc16LT56 - Today at 10:51:12 AM
Has Lauletta ever acknowledged that as a 4th round rookie QB, you should probably arrive to work EARLY??... which means leaving for work with plenty of time to spare. The reporting at the time said this kid had an issue arriving late to practice. He knew he was on thin ice, which is why he probably panicked when he was once again running late.
#28
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants Player Development ...
Last post by uconnjack8 - Today at 10:47:40 AM
Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 09:53:45 AMRight but are there other things going in as well?  What about drafting a guy who's good for one blocking scheme and not another such as the one you like to run?  How about thinking every player who plays on one side can play on the other side?

Giants drafted the 1st or 2nd best WR yet he does not appear on any Fantasy rookies to watch probably because Giants can't pass block and have a QB unwilling to throw downfield more aggressively.

I agree and think part of the issue is the changing of schemes from one regime to another that we brushed on in another thread.  The OL has at times been a mish-mosh of guys suited for different schemes and no theme to it. 

I noticed that the guys they signed to start this year both had better pass blocking grades than running blocking, so maybe they are trying to get a group that matches finally.  At least I hope it is
#29
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Carl Banks on the "Goofy B...
Last post by Ed Vette - Today at 10:34:47 AM
You're missing the point when you think this is all about Daniel Jones. This is about a diatribe attack by former high-profile player and the voice of the NYG's radio game announcer against the fan base to voice their displeasure over fan's comments about one player. A player who has not made a difference in 5 seasons. No diatribe when fans wanted to tank the season. No diatribe with all the shots at Evan Neal. Etc...

This is a very transparent effort to get fans behind the decision not to draft a QB. It's not only damage control, it's not good business to attack the customers. I won't bore any of you with ridiculous attempts at comparisons. You can make them yourselves.

This is a conservative organization that has accepted mediocrity and bad teams by giving parameters to their GM's, and placating the fan base by burning through 6 head Coaches including Spags. While never doing a proper rebuild. Here are the plain facts:

The team over the last 10 years has a 37% winning percentage. Just wrap your head around that for a minute. the record is 67-111-1. The point differential over that span is a minus -782 points. 8 of those 10 years the team finished 3rd or 4th in a 4-team Division. That's 80% a bottom-half finish against three other teams. POW!

After all that, the expectation from at least the fans here is that we are looking at 6-7 win season in the third year of Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll. So what happens next? Wash, rinse, and repeat. The day Tom Coughlin walked off that podium in a farce retirement after being thrown under the bus, was the day this Franchise went downhill. Now that deserved a resounding diatribe.

Something seriously is wrong with this organization folks.

#30
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants Player Development ...
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 10:33:09 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:15:10 AMEven with insufficient practice, quality O-line coaching will give a team an edge.   

Insufficient practice time made it even more negligent of their former ol coach to play Merry Go Round with the line in the preseason, which I believe was a big part of the non-competitive start.