Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: T200 on January 15, 2023, 09:02:36 PMHe should have said, "I apologize. I should have said, 'He played *well*' instead of 'played good' for all the grammar police out there."     

Lol...don't start that again😂😂

Just Win Baby.

If he does then he will be justly rewarded with both money and prestige

Quote from: Blue Fire on January 12, 2023, 09:03:00 AMDo the cap math... we can keep those guys and still have money to sign other players.

You state this as fact when the truth is you have no idea what people will command in salary.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 11, 2023, 09:22:09 PMI'd much rather talk about upgrading our punter at this point than Wr in every thread.

Good point.

To that - is anyone worried the Scottish Hammer will do something to hurt our chances on Sunday?

BF - I think you missed your calling as a GM or capologist. You will pound your fist against the table until the cows come home I'll give u that.

I'm happy with where we are with our WR (in terms of NOT breaking the bank) for a #1. I think Our GM agrees

Passing TDs and Passing Yards per game is where we need to see improvement

Quote from: Rambo89 on January 10, 2023, 12:15:16 PMWith this being his first playoff game I don't think a good or bad performances helps or hurts him.  At this point the front office has to have an idea of the direction they're going in this off season with Jones and the QB position.

Perhaps. But if he shows up looking calm as a cucumber and/or makes a drive in the big spot to secure a win then I think it certainly will play in the equation. We have seen him play much better last few weeks - even feeling pocket pressure better. I am most impressed how he isn't putting his head down and running when under duress - he is finally looking downfield with a confident posture looking to still make a throw. That's been different than what we have seen most of the season.

I wouldn't go anywhere near contract discussions if I'm Shoen. Don't need any distractions whatsoever.

I would also use this game as a very very important barometer on the Jones metric to see if he is a guy who can slow it down in the playoffs. It's all different starting Sunday. I hope he plays so well that it increases his contract demands. But the opposite  may happen as well.

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 05, 2023, 07:24:00 PM@kingm56

If all you are looking for is a top-10 QB, it appears Daniel Jones is your man.  Considering DJ is in (along with all his teammates) are in a first-year system.  PFF has the Giants ranked 18th in pass protection and 27th in receiving.  Yet despite these handicaps, DJ is currently.

QBR- 9

QB rating- 13

PFF- 14th (50% snaps)

On top of that, he has led his team to the playoffs. 

With all of that, I have a hard time not seeing how he won't be top 10 next season. (assuming the Giants add some talent)

This, along with what I've seen from Daboll in raw footage and teammates coupled with Jones play of late is definitely encouraging.

I still need to see a few boxes checked to be sure (the main being a 2 minute drill to win a huge game) and I also wanna judge for myself his whole persona in that situation. Last week was a bit of a turning point in my eyes as he seems to slowed it down (especially on the scramble where instead of running he threw for the TD)...earlier in the year he would've ran and got tackled or thrown it away - but his feel is getting better. Something is beginning to click. We still see some ill advised passes but it's to be expected. If he uses Bellinger more over the middle (and also maybe Brightwell) we may see some very extended drives. I'm anxious to see Daniel in the big game. It will tell me a lot.

Quote from: Blue Fire on January 05, 2023, 05:24:02 PMYes Trench I applaud you coming around on Jones in lieu of the quite obvious things we see on the field now. At least you are fully acknowledging them! Thats great it really is. However everyone to a man is certainly not the case. There are folks whether in this forum or in the general fandom populace that still have this unhealthy dislike for #8 which at this point cant even be based remotely on what you are seeing on the field anymore.

As for the title...Once again I posted the title of the video itself. Not my title. If you have a problem with it take it up with the youtube channel. 

Fair enough BF....but as far as the..."folks who have a dislike for #8" stuff - isn't that ok???....why keep pushing?....and saying to "open your eyes first" is a personal attack and our leaders on this board have stated personal attacks will not tolerated. Let's enjoy this January football.

Quote from: Blue Fire on January 05, 2023, 04:54:22 PMJClay writing something contradictory against anything positive published on Daniel Jones. Thats a surprise!

Still sticking to the quickly fading narrative. Let's see... Not ready to acknowledge anything good about #8 or our playoff run...still rebuilding.... Not going to spend money this offseason...gotcha.

Blue - everyone to a man has given Jones the props he deserves. In fact the "not sure" camp (me) have consistently hoped he would become the guy. That may be happening before our eyes. Sometimes it only takes a game or a situation to teach an athlete how to "slow it down" and I hope we are witnessing that.

However, please consider refraining from posting something that wasn't actually said as fact. It doesn't help.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 04, 2023, 08:08:06 PMRegardless of where one stands on this subject, it is hard to argue that Carton made a coherent argument at any time he was speaking in this video.

With that said, he is like that on just about every subject which, combined with his obnoxious delivery, makes him painful and basically impossible to listen to in my opinion.

I disagree with a lot of what Carton said regarding Eli. He was good a lot more than 2 seasons and he didn't even bring up his record when the game was on the line in 4th quarter. Schwartz made a good point also - how long can u wait for the supporting cast to assemble?....this is exactly where we will see if Jones is selfish or all about team where he takes a responsible contract.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on January 04, 2023, 06:32:32 PMHi, I don't know if anyone has seen these updated stats for DJ, but I thought I'd share them here.

- Jones' 92.5 passer rating is a career high, his current mark would rank seventh in team history, and it is the highest since Eli Manning's 93.6 rating in 2015.

- If Jones maintains his 67.2 completion percentage through the Giants' season finale Sunday in Philadelphia, he will establish a franchise single-season record for qualifying quarterbacks. Manning holds the current mark with at 66.0% in 2018.

- Jones' five-highest single-game completion percentages have all been this season, including a career-best 85.0 in the victory at Tennessee on Sept. 11. His 79.2 percentage against the Colts is the third highest of his career.

- Jones has a 1.06 interception percentage this season (five picks in 472 passes). No Giants quarterback has ever thrown so many passes with so few interceptions. The lowest ever INT percentage in a season by a qualifying Giants quarterback is 1.29 by Phil Simms in 1990 (four picks in 311 attempts).

- Jones has started all 16 games this season and he did not throw an interception in 12 of them. That is the highest number of starts without throwing a pick in the NFL this season. No other quarterback has more than 10.

- Jones has thrown for 3,205 yards with a 67.2 completion percentage and has rushed for 708 yards. He can become the fourth quarterback in NFL history – and one of two this year – with a 3,200-yard, 65%, 700-yard season.

If you'd like to see more of his stats, you can find them posted at Giants.com

That's great. Good job.
Now....

Just win baby.

Quote from: Slugsy-Narrows on January 02, 2023, 03:46:49 PMYou are not alone there are a number of us eating crow this year and I got no issues with it!

Like I said in a different post, I'm on the fence as to if he's a franchise guy but would certainly bring him back if the price is right. This could all change based on what I see in the playoffs (yes just one or 2 games in the big stage will be enough for me).

As for Thibs I also eat crow on that one. He has really shined. 1st 3/4 of season i wasn't overly impressed (same as our rookie Tackle) Neal who needs to show more. But last halt to 1/4 of season Thibs has been big. I do sincerely believe he has the prototypical body and speed moves where if he develops a spin move then lookout!

I said from day one - just win Danny and if you do then I'm in.

2 things I've stated plenty times here in the past:

1. If the team wins the QB gets the credit

2. "Just Win Baby" is the most important statistic we should use to gauge #8.

Still some boxes to be checked for me in terms of long term commitment and hopefully we will have those answers late January. But one thing is certain,
He deserves and has earned the right to enjoy every minute of this