Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Blue Fire on January 03, 2023, 07:02:43 PMJordan Raanan- DJ debate is over after Giants clinch playoffs

This Giants' new regime was always a fan of Jones. They liked his physical skills and makeup. But they still needed him to prove it on the field in order for them to want to commit to anything in the future. A team source said this summer they would have been open to an in-season extension or the franchise tag if he played well this year. The latter now realistically seems on the table.

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/64194/the-daniel-jones-debate-is-over-after-giants-clinch-playoffs

About 4 years after the 2019 draft, we all can argue that the Giants walked away with the best QB in that draft class.

Not for nothing, but I can see Gettleman with a smile on his face saying to the naysayers, I told you so.

Quote from: GMenRF on January 03, 2023, 07:34:36 PMAbout 4 years after the 2019 draft, we all can argue that the Giants walked away with the best QB in that draft class.

Not for nothing, but I can see Gettleman with a smile on his face saying to the naysayers, I told you so.

He can't say it till Jones holds the trophy high

DANIEL JONES HAS EMERGED, AGAINST ALL ODDS, AS THE GIANTS' FRANCHISE QB
1 DAY AGO

Ralph Vacchiano
NFC EAST REPORTER

QuoteThere's still the difficult work of negotiation, but it's been clear for a while now that Jones is the Giants' guy, that they want to lock him up to a long-term contract and give him the keys to the franchise. They are now sure he's a quarterback they can win with if they can ever put a decent team around him. Saquon Barkley has been fantastic and Andrew Thomas has emerged as an anchor at left tackle, but considering the dearth of wide receiver talent on the roster, Jones has been their MVP all season long.

These Giants wouldn't have been anywhere near their first playoff berth since 2016 if it wasn't for the play of Daniel Jones.

"Just happy for him," Mara told reporters after the Giants clinched a playoff berth with a 38-10 win over the Colts — his team's biggest win in six years. "You draft him as high as we drafted him, we got a lot of criticism. He took a lot of criticism. And to see him coming into his own is very gratifying for us."

It should be, just like somewhere up in Cape Cod, Mass., former Giants GM Dave Gettleman is surely feeling gratified too. He's the one who was all-in on Jones as the successor to Eli Manning back in 2019. He's the one whose neck was on the line when he stunned many around the NFL by drafting Jones sixth overall.

More at the link

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/daniel-jones-has-emerged-against-all-odds-as-the-giants-franchise-qb

Quote from: GMenRF on January 03, 2023, 07:34:36 PMAbout 4 years after the 2019 draft, we all can argue that the Giants walked away with the best QB in that draft class.

Not for nothing, but I can see Gettleman with a smile on his face saying to the naysayers, I told you so.

I picture a guy losing over 6 figures in a casino and on his way out the door, he takes his last 20 and puts in in a slot and hits for 10 grand. 

Quote from: T200 on January 03, 2023, 09:35:22 PMI picture a guy losing over 6 figures in a casino and on his way out the door, he takes his last 20 and puts in in a slot and hits for 10 grand. 

Perfect analogy

Quote from: GMenRF on January 03, 2023, 10:20:46 PMPerfect analogy

Took the words right out of my mouth (eeeew).

I always like to give both sides of the story.  Here is Geoff Schwartz arguing that the Giants can't win a Super Bowl with Daniel Jones (with Carton arguing for Jones)

https://twitter.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1610672802184544257

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 04, 2023, 11:25:15 AMhttps://twitter.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1610672802184544257

https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status/1609926226054873088

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 04, 2023, 11:25:15 AMhttps://twitter.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1610672802184544257

Last year the Giants were dead last, 32nd, in red zone scoring at 44.74%.

This year the Giants are 7th in the league at 63.83%.

Hi, I don't know if anyone has seen these updated stats for DJ, but I thought I'd share them here.

- Jones' 92.5 passer rating is a career high, his current mark would rank seventh in team history, and it is the highest since Eli Manning's 93.6 rating in 2015.

- If Jones maintains his 67.2 completion percentage through the Giants' season finale Sunday in Philadelphia, he will establish a franchise single-season record for qualifying quarterbacks. Manning holds the current mark with at 66.0% in 2018.

- Jones' five-highest single-game completion percentages have all been this season, including a career-best 85.0 in the victory at Tennessee on Sept. 11. His 79.2 percentage against the Colts is the third highest of his career.

- Jones has a 1.06 interception percentage this season (five picks in 472 passes). No Giants quarterback has ever thrown so many passes with so few interceptions. The lowest ever INT percentage in a season by a qualifying Giants quarterback is 1.29 by Phil Simms in 1990 (four picks in 311 attempts).

- Jones has started all 16 games this season and he did not throw an interception in 12 of them. That is the highest number of starts without throwing a pick in the NFL this season. No other quarterback has more than 10.

- Jones has thrown for 3,205 yards with a 67.2 completion percentage and has rushed for 708 yards. He can become the fourth quarterback in NFL history – and one of two this year – with a 3,200-yard, 65%, 700-yard season.

If you'd like to see more of his stats, you can find them posted at Giants.com

Quote from: sxdxca38 on January 04, 2023, 06:32:32 PMHi, I don't know if anyone has seen these updated stats for DJ, but I thought I'd share them here.

- Jones' 92.5 passer rating is a career high, his current mark would rank seventh in team history, and it is the highest since Eli Manning's 93.6 rating in 2015.

- If Jones maintains his 67.2 completion percentage through the Giants' season finale Sunday in Philadelphia, he will establish a franchise single-season record for qualifying quarterbacks. Manning holds the current mark with at 66.0% in 2018.

- Jones' five-highest single-game completion percentages have all been this season, including a career-best 85.0 in the victory at Tennessee on Sept. 11. His 79.2 percentage against the Colts is the third highest of his career.

- Jones has a 1.06 interception percentage this season (five picks in 472 passes). No Giants quarterback has ever thrown so many passes with so few interceptions. The lowest ever INT percentage in a season by a qualifying Giants quarterback is 1.29 by Phil Simms in 1990 (four picks in 311 attempts).

- Jones has started all 16 games this season and he did not throw an interception in 12 of them. That is the highest number of starts without throwing a pick in the NFL this season. No other quarterback has more than 10.

- Jones has thrown for 3,205 yards with a 67.2 completion percentage and has rushed for 708 yards. He can become the fourth quarterback in NFL history – and one of two this year – with a 3,200-yard, 65%, 700-yard season.

If you'd like to see more of his stats, you can find them posted at Giants.com

That's great. Good job.
Now....

Just win baby.

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 04, 2023, 08:12:53 AMI always like to give both sides of the story.  Here is Geoff Schwartz arguing that the Giants can't win a Super Bowl with Daniel Jones (with Carton arguing for Jones)

Regardless of where one stands on this subject, it is hard to argue that Carton made a coherent argument at any time he was speaking in this video.

With that said, he is like that on just about every subject which, combined with his obnoxious delivery, makes him painful and basically impossible to listen to in my opinion.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 04, 2023, 08:08:06 PMRegardless of where one stands on this subject, it is hard to argue that Carton made a coherent argument at any time he was speaking in this video.

With that said, he is like that on just about every subject which, combined with his obnoxious delivery, makes him painful and basically impossible to listen to in my opinion.

I disagree with a lot of what Carton said regarding Eli. He was good a lot more than 2 seasons and he didn't even bring up his record when the game was on the line in 4th quarter. Schwartz made a good point also - how long can u wait for the supporting cast to assemble?....this is exactly where we will see if Jones is selfish or all about team where he takes a responsible contract.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on January 04, 2023, 12:22:34 PMLast year the Giants were dead last, 32nd, in red zone scoring at 44.74%.

This year the Giants are 7th in the league at 63.83%.

Coaching, coaching, coaching.