Quote from: Derach on June 03, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
If I start a fight with you, you then proceed to kick my ass, and I shoot you, I'm still at fault.
That's a major point, you don't bring a gun to a fist fight
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Derach on June 03, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
If I start a fight with you, you then proceed to kick my ass, and I shoot you, I'm still at fault.
Quote from: worf49 on June 02, 2012, 02:40:37 PM
JimboWHO He caused the confrontation because he should not have been anywhere near the kid after reporting a "suspicious person".
Try reading the lead Detective's report and also consider that very same detective did not believe much of Zimmerman's story.
The Detective wanted to arrest Zimmerman but was backed off by The Florida DA for some reason as yet not detailed.
Quote from: JimboWHO on June 02, 2012, 01:59:00 PMQuote from: MightyGiants on June 01, 2012, 10:47:13 PM
The "evidence" was not exactly sound. Reports from Zimmerman's hand picked doctor are hardly credible. What will be credible are the EMT report and the police statements and pictures of any wounds. We have seen video of Zimmerman reporting to the station house not looking anything like what George's doctor claimed. Not that is all that surprising as there are doctors who will stretch the truth for the patient so they can get out of work, file phony lawsuits or in this case help keep a murderer out of jail.
Secondly the witness statements about who was on top were clearly coached as the statements did not match human visual ability. The statements involved identifying a man on top by the color of his shirt. Now it was a dark night and there is a funny thing about human's ability to perceive color, it doesn't exist when it gets dark. Try it yourself go out when it's near the end of dusk or darker and notice how vision goes to a basic black and white and colors become difficult to determine.
The police failed to do their job and let the killer walk free. That gave Zimmerman plenty of time to work with his daddy the judge and his lawyer a to concoct a story and fabricate evidence like his doctor's report
Finally it seems Zimmerman's penchant for lying has pissed off the judge. First he lied to the judge when he told the judge he was out of work and broke (when he actually had raised over $200,000 from people who rewarded him with large sums of cash for killing an unarmed black teenager) and he only turned in one of his two passports. So the judge has revoked the killer's bail and he is going to be spending time in prison until his trial
I agree with the messed up laws in Florida justice may not be served, but the reality is Zimmerman is a killer that killed an unarmed and innocent teen and he deserves to spend a long time in jail.
I think you're off the rails here.
Not only are you convicting Zimmerman without hearing the evidence you are smearing his doctor, making claims of witnesses being coached and alleging the police failed to do their job and "let a 'killer' walk free".
You are questioning eyewitness accounts immediately after the shooting by two people who place Zimmerman under Martin with Martin flailing away? You choose to disregard the photo obtained by ABC news that shows Zimmerman's bloody head - a photo taken 3 minutes after the police arrived on the scene. A bloody back of head, consistent with Zimmerman's claims of Martin bashing his head into the concrete.
Perhaps you were taken in by the media outcry and Sharpton's rent-a-riot, etc. but I have not been. Taken in by the years-old cherubic photo of Martin supplied by the family that bore little resemblance to what he looks like today. A photo designed to ilicit sympathy. Taken in by the first reports of the "large man Zimmerman" shooting the "smaller boy Martin". Martin was 6'2".
If the facts reveal Zimmerman recklessly and needlessly killed Martin then I'm with you - he should go to jail. It seems to me though, that you are acting recklessly above.
JJM
Quote from: tomeee on June 02, 2012, 08:40:27 AM
So mod's are you going to report your grades of this experiment.
I give it a D minus.
Quote from: McGIANTS on May 30, 2012, 12:12:46 PMQuote from: MightyGiants on May 30, 2012, 10:02:56 AMQuote from: McGIANTS on May 30, 2012, 09:00:21 AM
For me, I never saw Gifford play except for highlight reels. He was way before my time. I remember Morris - vaguely. Same goes for OJ. I don't really remember Hampton, oddly enough, but that's probably because he played on some poor teams. Tiki is probably the freshest in my mind and like others have said, his off the field antics and the way he left the team left a bad taste in my mouth. However, when he played it was hard to not root for him. If I had to pick the best though, it's hard to say but both OJ and Morris were favorites of mine, yet I agree that Tiki was an all around player. I'd probably, on a very slight margin, go with Tiki. I can't really stand him now though.
Is that Weatherford in your avatar?
Yes, he is. That's from the ring ceremony. I thought he looks excited, yet kind of silly (I think it was his "suit") so I decided to use the pic as my avatar.
Quote from: McGIANTS on May 30, 2012, 09:00:21 AM
For me, I never saw Gifford play except for highlight reels. He was way before my time. I remember Morris - vaguely. Same goes for OJ. I don't really remember Hampton, oddly enough, but that's probably because he played on some poor teams. Tiki is probably the freshest in my mind and like others have said, his off the field antics and the way he left the team left a bad taste in my mouth. However, when he played it was hard to not root for him. If I had to pick the best though, it's hard to say but both OJ and Morris were favorites of mine, yet I agree that Tiki was an all around player. I'd probably, on a very slight margin, go with Tiki. I can't really stand him now though.
Quote from: Jian on May 25, 2012, 08:48:08 PM
Ya I loved Ron Johnson too. All heart. Not much other talent or heart on the team for most of his time playing aka the dark years ...... Amazing to realize how good he would've been with a solid team around him. Many thanks to George Young for bringing the NY Giants out of their Dark Ages