Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 01:49:42 PMIt's his weight for his height.
Float is 6' 1/2" so he should be in the range I listed
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#1
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Here is a good picture of Flott to judge his size
Today at 03:45:06 PMFloat is 6' 1/2" so he should be in the range I listed
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Jones throwing with accuracy and velocity
Today at 03:43:29 PMQuote from: Trench on Today at 02:25:42 PMI think he was speaking rhetorically. And I also really didn't see anyone being critical but I do notice and like the fact that jones is defended by many no matter what. That isn't a bad thing.
The solid majority of fans on this forum are very knowledgeable. So I (and I assume @AZGiantFan ) both see stating the obvious, that throwing well in OTAs does not guarantee success come September, as needless and it feels like it's said just so one can say something negative about the guy (it also feels a bit belittling as I certainly didn't need to be told about the meaning of OTAs). Maybe I am wrong, and there was another reason it was said. Maybe there has been just so much arguing and ill-feelings on this subject that there is over-sensitivity.
#3
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Here is a good picture of Flott to judge his size
Today at 01:45:47 PMQuote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 01:30:50 PMAm I crazy or is 180 not really small for a CB?
CBs are usually in the 190-205 range
#4
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Here is a good picture of Flott to judge his size
Today at 12:49:42 PM
Q. I know your goal is always to get a little bigger. That was one thing coming out. Have you made strides in that field?
COR'DALE FLOTT: I am at 177 right now. The goal is 180 obviously. But obviously to get comfortable in the weight. I don't want to gain weight and it be bad weight and be out of shape and not be able to move around. I feel good so far, continue to build with the weights staff.
Q. What were you when you came in?
COR'DALE FLOTT: What was I? I was like 174.
COR'DALE FLOTT: I am at 177 right now. The goal is 180 obviously. But obviously to get comfortable in the weight. I don't want to gain weight and it be bad weight and be out of shape and not be able to move around. I feel good so far, continue to build with the weights staff.
Q. What were you when you came in?
COR'DALE FLOTT: What was I? I was like 174.
#5
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Thibs sings the praises of his new position coach
Today at 12:37:19 PM
Q. You talk about Charlie, but also Andre Patterson is working with you guys. What is that like?
KAYVON THIBODEAUX: Dre is a legend. He's like Mr. Miyagi, Yoda, knows how it all works. Charlie comes in and, he's the young, the energy company. When you talk about the scheme, things like that, they've been working hand-in-hand. When you see how it's going to continue to unfold, I think last year the interior and the edge weren't cohesive. Now it's going to start to work like clockwork. That's the maturity. That's where I'm growing as a player and we're growing as a defense, being able to play as a unit.
KAYVON THIBODEAUX: Dre is a legend. He's like Mr. Miyagi, Yoda, knows how it all works. Charlie comes in and, he's the young, the energy company. When you talk about the scheme, things like that, they've been working hand-in-hand. When you see how it's going to continue to unfold, I think last year the interior and the edge weren't cohesive. Now it's going to start to work like clockwork. That's the maturity. That's where I'm growing as a player and we're growing as a defense, being able to play as a unit.
#6
Big Blue Huddle / Thibs sings the praises of his new position coach
Today at 12:33:53 PM
Q. What in particular do you think are the next steps for you? I need to get better at this, this, this?
KAYVON THIBODEAUX: We talked about it. My coach, Charlie (Bullen), he's been cooking. I'm really happy to have him. I thank God I have him, to be honest. He's been very instrumental in the short period we've been together. Talk about accolades plus respect equals achievement to legacy. That's kind of what we've been talking about. Last year I was able to get 11 and a half sacks. Those are the accolades. Now it's about getting that respect throughout the league, having teams fear coming to play against us. Just taking everything I do to the next level as far as that extra. Greatness is optional. I just got to kind of take that next step.
Charlie Bullen spent the 2023 season as the Illinois football program's outside linebackers coach/pass rush coordinator. Bullen joined the Fighting Illini in January of 2023 with 11 years of NFL coaching experience, including four years with the Cardinals.
Bullen spent the 2020-2022 seasons as Arizona's outside linebackers coach after originally joining the staff as assistant linebackers coach. He also served seven years with the Miami Dolphins from 2012-2018, working with the linebackers and defensive line.
With the help of Bullen's outside linebacker group, the Cardinals ranked fifth in the NFL with 89 total sacks from 2020-2021. Of those, 50 came via the outside linebacker position. During that span, three Cardinals outside linebackers posted 10+ sacks: Markus Golden, Chandler Jones, and Haason Reddick.
Prior to working with the Dolphins, Bullen coached for three seasons (2009-2011) as a graduate assistant working with the defensive backs at his alma mater, the University of Iowa.
Charlie Bullen's Coaching Timeline:
2024-Current: Outside Linebackers Coach, New York Giants
2023: Illinois, Outside Linebackers Coach/Pass Rush Coordinator
2020-22: Arizona Cardinals, Outside Linebackers Coach
2019: Arizona Cardinals, Assistant Linebackers Coach
2016-18: Miami Dolphins, Assistant Linebackers Coach
2013-15: Miami Dolphins, Assistant Defensive Line Coach
2012: Miami Dolphins, Defensive Assistant
2009-11: Iowa, Graduate Assistant (Defensive Backs)
2007-08: Iowa, Student Assistant (Quarterbacks)
KAYVON THIBODEAUX: We talked about it. My coach, Charlie (Bullen), he's been cooking. I'm really happy to have him. I thank God I have him, to be honest. He's been very instrumental in the short period we've been together. Talk about accolades plus respect equals achievement to legacy. That's kind of what we've been talking about. Last year I was able to get 11 and a half sacks. Those are the accolades. Now it's about getting that respect throughout the league, having teams fear coming to play against us. Just taking everything I do to the next level as far as that extra. Greatness is optional. I just got to kind of take that next step.
Charlie Bullen spent the 2023 season as the Illinois football program's outside linebackers coach/pass rush coordinator. Bullen joined the Fighting Illini in January of 2023 with 11 years of NFL coaching experience, including four years with the Cardinals.
Bullen spent the 2020-2022 seasons as Arizona's outside linebackers coach after originally joining the staff as assistant linebackers coach. He also served seven years with the Miami Dolphins from 2012-2018, working with the linebackers and defensive line.
With the help of Bullen's outside linebacker group, the Cardinals ranked fifth in the NFL with 89 total sacks from 2020-2021. Of those, 50 came via the outside linebacker position. During that span, three Cardinals outside linebackers posted 10+ sacks: Markus Golden, Chandler Jones, and Haason Reddick.
Prior to working with the Dolphins, Bullen coached for three seasons (2009-2011) as a graduate assistant working with the defensive backs at his alma mater, the University of Iowa.
Charlie Bullen's Coaching Timeline:
2024-Current: Outside Linebackers Coach, New York Giants
2023: Illinois, Outside Linebackers Coach/Pass Rush Coordinator
2020-22: Arizona Cardinals, Outside Linebackers Coach
2019: Arizona Cardinals, Assistant Linebackers Coach
2016-18: Miami Dolphins, Assistant Linebackers Coach
2013-15: Miami Dolphins, Assistant Defensive Line Coach
2012: Miami Dolphins, Defensive Assistant
2009-11: Iowa, Graduate Assistant (Defensive Backs)
2007-08: Iowa, Student Assistant (Quarterbacks)
#7
Big Blue Huddle / Jones fielding questions from reporters about NYG chasing a QB in the draft
Today at 12:29:36 PM
Q. You mentioned on draft night you were watching like everybody else. That potentially affected your career. What was your thought process when you know there might be a quarterback out there? Were you thinking is this a vote for me or not me?
DANIEL JONES: I mean, I wasn't fired up about it. But I think it's part of it at this level, like I said. What I can do is focus on myself and getting healthy, play the best football I can play, and that I know I'm capable of playing. That's my job and that's what I'm going to do.
Q. Did you talk to Joe (Schoen) and Brian (Daboll) after they picked Malik about the quarterback pursuit?
DANIEL JONES: No. We talked about the pick, talked about getting Malik and getting to work with him.
Q. Do you feel they're committed to you for the long-term?
DANIEL JONES: Yeah, I feel good about where we're going. I feel good about this team. My job is to get healthy and play good football.
Q. Do you view Drew (Lock) as a competition for quarterback one job or do you think that's your job when you're healthy?
DANIEL JONES: I think we're all trying to do what we can to make this team as good as possible. Like any other year, I'm competing with the guys in there. Like every room on our team, there's competition. Like I've said a couple times, I'm going to try to get healthy, play good football.
Q. Do you feel like you got a lot to prove this year?
DANIEL JONES: I always feel like I have a lot to prove. I'm motivated, I'm doing everything I can to be ready to go.
Q. They tried aggressively to trade up three spots to draft Drake Maye. Do you take that personally?
DANIEL JONES: I don't think you can take anything personally at this level. How exactly it happened and what happened, I'm not sure I know and I'm not sure you know. At the end of the day, I'm focused on playing good football.
Q. Back in college, they are always recruiting over you. Is the mindset the same at the pro level? Do you look at it the same?
DANIEL JONES: Similar, yeah. I think I've always kind of had that kind of mindset. I don't think that changes how I work, how I go about my job, how I see my job and how I'm going to approach every day. That's not changing regardless of the situation.
DANIEL JONES: I mean, I wasn't fired up about it. But I think it's part of it at this level, like I said. What I can do is focus on myself and getting healthy, play the best football I can play, and that I know I'm capable of playing. That's my job and that's what I'm going to do.
Q. Did you talk to Joe (Schoen) and Brian (Daboll) after they picked Malik about the quarterback pursuit?
DANIEL JONES: No. We talked about the pick, talked about getting Malik and getting to work with him.
Q. Do you feel they're committed to you for the long-term?
DANIEL JONES: Yeah, I feel good about where we're going. I feel good about this team. My job is to get healthy and play good football.
Q. Do you view Drew (Lock) as a competition for quarterback one job or do you think that's your job when you're healthy?
DANIEL JONES: I think we're all trying to do what we can to make this team as good as possible. Like any other year, I'm competing with the guys in there. Like every room on our team, there's competition. Like I've said a couple times, I'm going to try to get healthy, play good football.
Q. Do you feel like you got a lot to prove this year?
DANIEL JONES: I always feel like I have a lot to prove. I'm motivated, I'm doing everything I can to be ready to go.
Q. They tried aggressively to trade up three spots to draft Drake Maye. Do you take that personally?
DANIEL JONES: I don't think you can take anything personally at this level. How exactly it happened and what happened, I'm not sure I know and I'm not sure you know. At the end of the day, I'm focused on playing good football.
Q. Back in college, they are always recruiting over you. Is the mindset the same at the pro level? Do you look at it the same?
DANIEL JONES: Similar, yeah. I think I've always kind of had that kind of mindset. I don't think that changes how I work, how I go about my job, how I see my job and how I'm going to approach every day. That's not changing regardless of the situation.
#8
Big Blue Huddle / Daboll on setting the O-line
Today at 11:18:18 AM
Here was Daboll comments about the O-line from yesterday's presser
Q. With a new coach and obviously you're looking at a new approach, have you changed anything with your approach to the offensive line in OTAs and going into training camp and how has Carm Bricillo's philosophy kind of meshed with the guys you have now?
BRIAN DABOLL: I think Carm and James (Ferentz) are doing really good job. Again, this is a teaching camp here. There's no roster spots that are going to be made based on what they do here. This is more learning how we're doing it, the communication aspect of it, but as a whole they have done a good job in the meeting room, out on the practice field, working well together, so try to build off that.
Q. Is this a time of year where you want to see guys in different spots, do you get to a point where you want to see kind of your guys develop into, okay, this is what we want, this is our right guard?
BRIAN DABOLL: Yeah, it's May right now, so we're trying to teach as many players different techniques. One time they might be guard, one time they might be tackle, you never know what we're going to need. We'll get to the depth chart much, much further down the road.
Q. Where are you starting Jon Runyon and Jermaine Eluemunor?
BRIAN DABOLL: Today, they're playing guards today.
Q. Do you have a specific side where you start Jon on or at least say, hey, you can kind of move from there?
BRIAN DABOLL: Today Jon is playing right guard, which is primarily where he has played so far up to this point. Eluemunor is playing left guard.
Q. Would you rather be in a position in August where you're not rotating guys in and out and you have a set five?
BRIAN DABOLL: Yeah, I think we'll take it as it comes. So we got a long time between now and August and once we go through training camp, we get through this phase three, we'll teach them the that stuff we're doing. There's obviously certain changes we're doing. They will have a chance with pads on to compete and then when we figure out what we think is the right five combination, whenever that is, that's when it is. Whether it's in the beginning of August and however it sorts out.
Q. With a new coach and obviously you're looking at a new approach, have you changed anything with your approach to the offensive line in OTAs and going into training camp and how has Carm Bricillo's philosophy kind of meshed with the guys you have now?
BRIAN DABOLL: I think Carm and James (Ferentz) are doing really good job. Again, this is a teaching camp here. There's no roster spots that are going to be made based on what they do here. This is more learning how we're doing it, the communication aspect of it, but as a whole they have done a good job in the meeting room, out on the practice field, working well together, so try to build off that.
Q. Is this a time of year where you want to see guys in different spots, do you get to a point where you want to see kind of your guys develop into, okay, this is what we want, this is our right guard?
BRIAN DABOLL: Yeah, it's May right now, so we're trying to teach as many players different techniques. One time they might be guard, one time they might be tackle, you never know what we're going to need. We'll get to the depth chart much, much further down the road.
Q. Where are you starting Jon Runyon and Jermaine Eluemunor?
BRIAN DABOLL: Today, they're playing guards today.
Q. Do you have a specific side where you start Jon on or at least say, hey, you can kind of move from there?
BRIAN DABOLL: Today Jon is playing right guard, which is primarily where he has played so far up to this point. Eluemunor is playing left guard.
Q. Would you rather be in a position in August where you're not rotating guys in and out and you have a set five?
BRIAN DABOLL: Yeah, I think we'll take it as it comes. So we got a long time between now and August and once we go through training camp, we get through this phase three, we'll teach them the that stuff we're doing. There's obviously certain changes we're doing. They will have a chance with pads on to compete and then when we figure out what we think is the right five combination, whenever that is, that's when it is. Whether it's in the beginning of August and however it sorts out.
#9
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Mixed bag for Lock today
Today at 10:53:42 AM
Q. How is Drew Lock looking?
BRIAN DABOLL: Yeah, he's -- again, it's spring ball. We've talked about this I think the last two years. This is really a teaching camp. He's done a good job of picking up the information. So just try to get better each day.
BRIAN DABOLL: Yeah, he's -- again, it's spring ball. We've talked about this I think the last two years. This is really a teaching camp. He's done a good job of picking up the information. So just try to get better each day.
#10
Big Blue Huddle / Re: OTA 3 reports includes beat writers
Today at 10:49:02 AM #11
Big Blue Huddle / The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd string DBs from yesterday's practice
Today at 10:21:14 AM
Dan Duggan has a great article if you subscribe to the Athletic.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5516057/2024/05/23/new-york-giants-practice-daniel-jones-week-1/?source=emp_shared_article
For those that don't, I found the DB lines rather interesting
1st String
CB Deonte Banks, CB Cor'Dale Flott, CB Nick McCloud (slot), S Jason Pinnock, S Dane Belton.
2nd String
CB Tre Hawkins, CB Darnay Holmes, CB Andru Phillips (slot), S Tyler Nubin, S Gervarrius Owens.
3rd String
CB Kaleb Hayes, CB Alex Johnson, CB David Long (slot), S Jalen Mills, S Gervarrius Owens.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5516057/2024/05/23/new-york-giants-practice-daniel-jones-week-1/?source=emp_shared_article
For those that don't, I found the DB lines rather interesting
1st String
CB Deonte Banks, CB Cor'Dale Flott, CB Nick McCloud (slot), S Jason Pinnock, S Dane Belton.
2nd String
CB Tre Hawkins, CB Darnay Holmes, CB Andru Phillips (slot), S Tyler Nubin, S Gervarrius Owens.
3rd String
CB Kaleb Hayes, CB Alex Johnson, CB David Long (slot), S Jalen Mills, S Gervarrius Owens.
#12
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Jones throwing with accuracy and velocity
Today at 09:57:17 AMQuote from: katkavage on Today at 09:51:20 AMMost NFL players look good in May
With the exception of Drew Lock
#13
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants have Evan Neal focusing to be the starting RT
Today at 08:24:44 AMQuote from: babywhales on Today at 08:07:30 AMthis says to me, we still trust our scouting reports and feel the coaches we had in place to develop Neal failed him.
We will do our best with what we feel is a competent coach to salvage his career and the investment of our draft pick
I think we can also consider that most of the scouting reports, including those by former NFL professionals, were positive about Neal. Now, they (the draftniks) didn't have a chance to interview him, and Neal avoided all the combined athletic testing, but his college film didn't indicate (with the exception of being on the ground too much) that he was a questionable prospect.
#14
Big Blue Huddle / NFT- Update on the Scottie Scheffler
Today at 08:22:40 AM
Louisville police officer who arrested Scottie Scheffler had been previously suspended
This link provides a list of the arresting officer's many discipline issues. The officer has also been disciplined for not activating his body cam.
https://sports.yahoo.com/louisville-police-officer-arrested-scottie-232229744.html
QuoteThe police officer who put world No. 1 golfer Scottie Scheffler in handcuffs has a lengthy disciplinary record that includes multiple suspensions, employment records revealed Thursday.
Detective Bryan Gillis took Scheffler into custody May 17 when the golfer sought to enter Valhalla Golf Club as police investigated a nearby fatal accident.
Scheffler has maintained he was following police directions on how to drive into the club. But arresting police said Scheffler did not follow directions.
Further complicating the matter, city officials said Gillis did not activate his body worn camera when he encountered Scheffler.
The only footage, so far, appears to come from a squad car dashboard camera and a roadside pole and both sets of video don't clearly show what led to Scheffler being placed in handcuffs.
This link provides a list of the arresting officer's many discipline issues. The officer has also been disciplined for not activating his body cam.
https://sports.yahoo.com/louisville-police-officer-arrested-scottie-232229744.html
#15
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Devito takes a stand
Today at 07:10:13 AM
I really don't see DeVito's comments as news. Despite the coaching rhetoric about draft status being meaningless, when a team spends valuable draft capital on a player, it gives that player more stature. It's likely been that way since the NFL instituted the draft.