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Title: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 12:54:31 PM
Plenty of meaningful NFL games today. There are no play-in games (where both opponents face the same situation), but there are plenty of games that matter. The Jax game should be interesting as far as the 1pm games go, and I'm definitely going to be watching Jets/Pats (rooting hard for the Pats for Giants draft purposes).

Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 01:48:00 PM
The snow is beautiful in Foxborough!
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 02:03:11 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 01:48:00 PMThe snow is beautiful in Foxborough!

The game itself is unwatchable. I'm trying, because it's very important to us, but man what an ugly game.

Nobody has collapsed this year the way the Jags did. This team was 8-3. Looks like they now have a very good chance of not making the playoffs.

I want the Bills in. The playoffs in general are just a better product when Josh Allen is involved.

Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 02:03:11 PMThe game itself is unwatchable. I'm trying, because it's very important to us, but man what an ugly game.

Nobody has collapsed this year the way the Jags did. This team was 8-3. Looks like they now have a very good chance of not making the playoffs.

I want the Bills in. The playoffs in general are just a better product when Josh Allen is involved.



It's unwatchable because these are 2 of the worst scoring offenses in the league playing in the snow. Put Buffalo and Cleveland in this weather and it would be glorious.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: katkavage on January 07, 2024, 03:49:12 PM
Pats will get their QB.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 03:59:01 PM
Steelers in!
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 03:59:22 PM
Bailey Zappe is a disgrace. He is much worse than Zack Wilson and he's also even worse than Mac Jones.

I have to say - I wouldn't hire Belichick at this point. I guess I'd hire him to be just the coach and nothing else, but he is as bad a talent evaluator as Gettleman is. Worse even maybe. I wouldn't even want him in a collaborative role with the front office. This roster is an utter disgrace, and that is 100% his fault as he calls the shots on everything.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: katkavage on January 07, 2024, 04:00:25 PM
Jets celebrating a win over the Bailey Zappe-led Pats is truly pathetic.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 04:00:28 PM
With the Patriots losing does our game have any impact on where we draft now?

Edit: Read that we can move to 4th with a loss and Arizona win.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: katkavage on January 07, 2024, 04:00:25 PMJets celebrating a win over the Bailey Zappe-led Pats is truly pathetic.

Is it any more pathetic than the three week Cutlets-mania that enevlopped the Giants fan community because we beat the exact same team plus the Skins, who are even worse?
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 04:03:56 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 04:00:28 PMWith the Patriots losing does our game have any impact on where we draft now?

Edit: Read that we can move to 4th with a loss and Arizona win.

Our range of outcomes is still substantial based on whether we win or lose plus what you mentioned. You also have the Commanders.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: katkavage on January 07, 2024, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 04:02:33 PMIs it any more pathetic than the three week Cutlets-mania that enevlopped the Giants fan community because we beat the exact same team plus the Skins, who are even worse?
That was the silly fans reacting. These are players celebrating the end of a pitiful season by beating a pitiful team.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 04:15:25 PM
Quote from: katkavage on January 07, 2024, 04:04:26 PMThat was the silly fans reacting. These are players celebrating the end of a pitiful season by beating a pitiful team.

Our players didn't celebrate on the field when they beat pitiful teams like a Kyler Murray-less Cards team, the Commanders twice (both times by scant margins), barely beating the Pats in Met Life with the Pats missing a 35 yard chip shot, and then beating Green Bay at home (again barely) with Green Bay missing just about all of their good players?

Not looking to get into an argument over this, because it's not important either way, but Giants players absolutely, 100% celebrated wins against the dregs of the NFL this year. Emphatically so. So did the coaches. I watched Daboll dancing off the field with DeVito like a buffoon in one of these games.

We ARE among the dregs of the NFL this year. So of course our players are going to get excited about beating someone who was on our level. They absolutely did. No different from the Jets.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: Woody on January 07, 2024, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 01:48:00 PMThe snow is beautiful in Foxborough!
I have 12 " of beautiful t my house...starting to get ugly


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Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 04:24:37 PM
Are we really criticizing players for celebrating a win? What are there unwritten rules about over-celebrating like in baseball? Anyone who wins in these crappy conditions can celebrate.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: spiderblue43 on January 07, 2024, 04:26:52 PM
Titans did their fans proud today. Henry was a beast against that leaky Jag D. Lawrence defenders have the injury excuse but was mediocre at best down the stretch.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 04:34:30 PM
Smith angry the Saints ran it up on him.


https://twitter.com/home
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 04:34:30 PMSmith angry the Saints ran it up on him.


https://twitter.com/home

All I see is Twitter home page.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 04:50:10 PMAll I see is Twitter home page.

Sorry. Intended to send this:

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1744103647053529475
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 04:53:55 PMSorry. Intended to send this:

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1744103647053529475

Good for Arthur Smith. Show some class Allen.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 04:55:41 PMGood for Arthur Smith. Show some class Allen.

Yep. Smith may be looking for a job come tomorrow afternoon though.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 07, 2024, 05:15:45 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 05:06:33 PMYep. Smith may be looking for a job come tomorrow afternoon though.

Not on Dennis Allen's squad.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 09:27:34 PM
Here is Jameis Winston's explanation of the final play that guy Arthur Smith so angry:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1744176235142373397
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 08, 2024, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 07, 2024, 09:27:34 PMHere is Jameis Winston's explanation of the final play that guy Arthur Smith so angry:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1744176235142373397

So if I am reading this correctly the Saints intercepted the Falcons 3rd string QB and took it to the 1 yard line instead of the end zone. Then Allen called a kneel down to jus end the game and Winston ignored the call so that Jamaal Williams can get his first TD of the season while they were actually in Victory Formation? Then Allen gets cursed out by Smith after game. Then all hell broke out in the Saints locker room presumably by an angry head coach who doesn't like being accused of running up a score.

Is this the correct chain of events?
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 08, 2024, 03:36:28 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on January 08, 2024, 03:33:55 PMSo if I am reading this correctly the Saints intercepted the Falcons 3rd string QB and took it to the 1 yard line instead of the end zone. Then Allen called a kneel down to jus end the game and Winston ignored the call so that Jamaal Williams can get his first TD of the season while they were actually in Victory Formation? Then Allen gets cursed out by Smith after game. Then all hell broke out in the Saints locker room presumably by an angry head coach who doesn't like being accused of running up a score.

Is this the correct chain of events?

I believe so, yes.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: TDToomer on January 08, 2024, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 08, 2024, 03:36:28 PMI believe so, yes.

Then Winston is a POS. That weird eyes bugging out of his head exchange with the media confirms what a total douchebag he is.
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 08, 2024, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on January 08, 2024, 04:01:10 PMThen Winston is a POS. That weird eyes bugging out of his head exchange with the media confirms what a total douchebag he is.

He's not a guy I'd ever have any interest in having on our team, and I'm not even talking about this episode (although this doesn't help, I agree).
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: GordonGekko80 on January 09, 2024, 06:41:00 AM
You don't score a TD out of victory formation. Point blank.

The coach calls "victory", you do "victory".
You don't overrule a call like that. It's 41-17.

You wanna score? Give the D a chance to line up and stop you, but don't fool the D like that.
Winston needs to be gone. I wouldn't sign this guy on a free (not to mention how bad this makes his coach look, too).
Title: Re: NGT - Around the NFL: Week 18
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 09, 2024, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: GordonGekko80 on January 09, 2024, 06:41:00 AMYou don't score a TD out of victory formation. Point blank.

The coach calls "victory", you do "victory".

Agreed. Not only is it a lame move, but it also creates acute injury risk, especially for the defense. So not only are you trying to humiliate them, but you are heightening their injury risk for absolutely no good reason.