I am sure many here have a favorite college QB. With the high probability of moving on from Daneil Jones after this season, who do you like? For me my guy is Carson Beck.
Ranking top quarterback prospects by QBR
QBR rating is from 2023 stats as we enter Week 1's full schedule.
Dillon Gabriel, Oregon (87.3)
Kaidon Salter, Liberty (86.2)
Noah Fifita, Arizona (85.6)
Carson Beck, Georgia (85.2)
Kyle McCord, Syracuse (83.7)
Jalen Milroe, Alabama (83.6)
DJ Uiagalelei, Florida State (80.8)
Quinn Ewers, Texas (78.7)
Brady Cook, Missouri (77.2)
Josh Hoover, TCU (77.1)
Garrett Greene, West Virginia (76.7)
Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss (76.7)
Will Howard, Ohio State (75.3)
Joey Aguilar, Appalachian State (73.2)
Chandler Morris, North Texas (73.1)
Drew Allar, Penn State (72.7)
Haynes King, Georgia Tech (72.3)
Riley Leonard, Notre Dame (72.1)
Jordan McCloud, Texas State (71.9)
Preston Stone, SMU (71.3)
Tyler Van Dyke, Wisconsin (71.0)
Zeon Chriss, Houston (69.3)
Graham Mertz, Florida (68.5)
Rocco Becht, Iowa State (67.9)
Seth Henigan, Memphis (67.9)
I am currently recording Georgia vs Clemson
and I am going to watch Notre Dame vs Texas A&M they play 4:30 PT
https://sports.yahoo.com/ranking-top-qb-prospects-2025-165837506.html
Everyone is talking about Beck and some about Sanders but Jalen Milroe is someone that I have my eye on.
It's a Beck, Sanders, Ewers, and Dart party. Just wait and see who takes the lead.
I think Howard @ OSU can develop and hoping Arch will take the starter job in TX and then declare at the end of the season.
Let's BEEF UP our options!! LOL
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on August 31, 2024, 07:51:14 PMI think Howard @ OSU can develop and hoping Arch will take the starter job in TX and then declare at the end of the season.
Let's BEEF UP our options!! LOL
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Arch's body looks light to me. Think he needs some good muscle weight.
Quote from: Philosophers on August 31, 2024, 07:54:22 PMArch's body looks light to me. Think he needs some good muscle weight.
You may be right but that arm and those legs looked good today!
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on August 31, 2024, 07:55:31 PMYou may be right but that arm and those legs looked good today!
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Next week Ewers and Manning play against Michigan which has a great D so we'll see how they do. They have probably 3 2025 first round picks plus Wink running D
I wonder about the kid that's from Penn st
If I remember correctly, someone last year was really high on him
Quote from: Philosophers on August 31, 2024, 05:42:48 PMEveryone is talking about Beck and some about Sanders but Jalen Milroe is someone that I have my eye on.
At one point tonight Milroe was 4-6 for 186 yards and three touchdowns. Might be the most efficient stat line for a quarterback in a long time.
I just finished watching Clemson vs Georgia. I thought Beck looked pretty good
Player PFF Pass TD-Int Comp % YPA PFF Total
Dart 95.5 5-0 81.5 15.5 95.7
Nico 91.2 3-0 78.6 11.2 87.3
Sanders 90.4 4-1 76.6 13.1 90.7
Ewers 78.4 3-1 74.1 9.6 79.1
Beck 64.3 2-0 69.7 8.4 69.0
I am keenly aware of those pianists who presently may be regarded as the world's best. Although, I do play piano myself, it would never occur to me rank those extraordinary talents in some sort of pecking order. Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that there is any comparability between those with the gift of genius and a list of 2025 QB Draft prospects. But it does make it difficult and awkward, almost embarrassing, for me to do so for the latter when all I can do is stick a wet finger in the air.
But then I remind myself that it's all Fantasy Football reminiscent of Chopin's Opus 30, Fantasie-Impromptu in C# minor, the melody from the middle section of which was used in the popular Vaudeville song "I'm Always Chasing Rainbows". ;)
Cheers!
That's a QBR list from last season. The list will look very different in 4 months and it isn't even a good list now. Cam Ward is already in the top 5 after yesterday, he won't be going down on that list, and will be in New York as a finalist for the Heisman.
I will be focusing on the guys who look better every time I see them, starting with Ward and Cook.
Enjoy the games and save this stuff for February.
You don't want the QB who just throws it to that one amazing WR
And he gets bailed out all.the time
That is why most of these QBs fails
That play where they go to all.the time and it works
Doesn't happen in the nfl
Now what
Quote from: madbadger on August 31, 2024, 09:27:49 PMAt one point tonight Milroe was 4-6 for 186 yards and three touchdowns. Might be the most efficient stat line for a quarterback in a long time.
Amazing stretch of production. I was impressed by Sanders 5-5 for 125 but Milroe blew oast that.
Quote from: bamagiantfan on September 01, 2024, 11:59:31 AMThat's a QBR list from last season. The list will look very different in 4 months and it isn't even a good list now. Cam Ward is already in the top 5 after yesterday, he won't be going down on that list, and will be in New York as a finalist for the Heisman.
I will be focusing on the guys who look better every time I see them, starting with Ward and Cook.
Enjoy the games and save this stuff for February.
Am I the onky one who thinks Cam Ward's delivery is a bit unorthodox? It seems like a bit side armed with the ball getting released before the optimal telease point.
Quote from: Painter on September 01, 2024, 11:13:48 AMI am keenly aware of those pianists who presently may be regarded as the world's best. Although, I do play piano myself, it would never occur to me rank those extraordinary talents in some sort of pecking order. Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that there is any comparability between those with the gift of genius and a list of 2025 QB Draft prospects. But it does make it difficult and awkward, almost embarrassing, for me to do so for the latter when all I can do is stick a wet finger in the air.
But then I remind myself that it's all Fantasy Football reminiscent of Chopin's Opus 30, Fantasie-Impromptu in C# minor, the melody from the middle section of which was used in the popular Vaudeville song "I'm Always Chasing Rainbows". ;)
Cheers!
I don't want to sabotage this thread, but as a pianist myself, I share your opinion. Pianists have styles of their own and translate their feelings through the ebonies and ivories. One person's opinion is biased by his own preferred style and choice of music...which is okay, but that one opinion does not represent all the pianists in the world. Only thing I can add, is that I made all four of my kids take piano lessons and said after a year or two, they can choose any instrument they so desire, but they were going to be able to read a sheet of music and walk up to a piano and know where middle C is, and the difference between a B-flat and F-Sharp. Only one chose to stick with the piano, the others...guitar, flute, and one didn't go on with an instrument. The purpose in forcing my kids to take up an instrument - in my defense of being too hard of a father - was that attempting to master an instrument (and typically failing), one gains a far greater appreciation of those who really have mastered it. It can make one awestruck, as I've found myself many times. If never giving an instrument a shot, it's hard (I think anyway), to fully appreciate what it takes for one to master that instrument and thus, take it for granted and never be able to really appreciate it to the level it is deserved
Anyway, back to football...don't sleep on Kyle McCord! He's going to surprise a lot of people this year. You heard it here first, LOL
Are you folks watching Miller Moss from USC? This kid also looks good. Great game.
Quote from: Philosophers on September 01, 2024, 10:54:45 PMAre you folks watching Miller Moss from USC? This kid also looks good. Great game.
Just came here to ask the same thing! I haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere but I found him on one list, ranked 34th among QBs. He looked a hell of a lot better than that tonight!
Ed: Do you believe Sanders is capable of becoming an elite NFL QB?
I just don't see it, although I do see him with the potential to be good (mostly due to elite physicality).
There are elements missing from his game, which he somewhat makes up for by excelling in other areas.
Bob
PS. Keep an eye on Miller Moss of USC. If his OL holds up, he'll surprise a few Big Ten teams. And it never hurts a QB to have Lincoln Riley as a coach. I don't think Moss intends to play pro ball, so most observers tend to ignore him (or give him less attention). Nevertheless, he is one darn good player... and smart.
Quote from: brownelvis54 on August 31, 2024, 08:40:35 PMI wonder about the kid that's from Penn st
If I remember correctly, someone last year was really high on him
brownE: Probably me. IMO he'll be a 1st-rounder, but I hear rumblings he won't come out after this year. Bob
Dart i want to follow close. He looks the part. Big arm, size, athleticism..etc. And in garbage time, an Arch Manning siting! He looks more spry than the brothers Manning.
:doh: :what: :ok:
We have three threads on college QBs, plus one on college football in general.
Good point.
I do find the weekly thread that offers a run down of key players/games to be of use. I would like that to remain stand alone if one of the knowledge posters is happy to start it.
Exactly. Let's just talk about Daniel Jones.
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on September 02, 2024, 11:24:27 AMGood point.
I do find the weekly thread that offers a run down of key players/games to be of use. I would like that to remain stand alone if one of the knowledge posters is happy to start it.
Agreed. The weekly college thread is a great one-stop-shop for all college talk, and since this is a Giants site there probably doesn't nee to be more college talk than that.
I think this week is a bit unique because there is no pro football (or even meaningful news) and college was in full swing with some big games this weekend. So it's sort of understandable.
My personal suggestion would be that moving forward we confine college discussions to the weekly college games thread. I'm pretty sure once the NFL games start there won't be a great deal of college talk outside of Saturdays anyway.
Quote from: Bob In PA on September 02, 2024, 12:05:35 AMEd: Do you believe Sanders is capable of becoming an elite NFL QB?
I just don't see it, although I do see him with the potential to be good (mostly due to elite physicality).
There are elements missing from his game, which he somewhat makes up for by excelling in other areas.
Bob
PS. Keep an eye on Miller Moss of USC. If his OL holds up, he'll surprise a few Big Ten teams. And it never hurts a QB to have Lincoln Riley as a coach. I don't think Moss intends to play pro ball, so most observers tend to ignore him (or give him less attention). Nevertheless, he is one darn good player... and smart.
I believe he has good fluid motion and maintains his base in the pocket. I know his arm strength is questioned by some but it looks strong enough for me. He seems to make his reads quickly and makes good decisions. I haven't spent much time scouting him since he had another season and there were 5 other QBs I was looking at. What do you see him as missing? And what's up with no TEs in this Offense?
New York Giants: Scouting the 2025 quarterback draft class | Week 1 standout performances
The New York Giants are well aware that Daniel Jones could be in his final year with the team that drafted him in 2019. The Giants gave Jones a substantial four-year, $160 million contract during the 2023 offseason, which included $92 million guaranteed. However, general manager Joe Schoen strategically included an option to exit the deal after the 2024 season, which would save the Giants approximately $19 million in salary cap space next year if exercised.
https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-giants/new-york-giants-scouting-the-2025-quarterback-draft-class-week-1-standout-performances/
Again I like Carson Beck and Quinn Ewers the most. Dont know anything about Jaxson Dart, Drew Allar, Jalen Milroe or Cam Ward
Grading the transfer QBs after week 1 https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-week-1-grades-how-six-prominent-transfer-qbs-fared-from-a-to-d/
https://n.rivals.com/news/jaxson-dart-nets-nation-s-highest-qb-grade-in-week-1-ole-miss-blowout-win
Highest graded QBR after week 1. 22-27 for 460 and 6 total Tds in 1 half. Look at their schedule, if he plays the next 3 games at least into the 3rd then he could easily have 2500 yards before they even enter their real schedule. With the odds on him to win the Heisman at like 15-1 right now.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 03, 2024, 05:55:48 PMhttps://n.rivals.com/news/jaxson-dart-nets-nation-s-highest-qb-grade-in-week-1-ole-miss-blowout-win
Highest graded QBR after week 1. 22-27 for 460 and 6 total Tds in 1 half. Look at their schedule, if he plays the next 3 games at least into the 3rd then he could easily have 2500 yards before they even enter their real schedule. With the odds on him to win the Heisman at like 15-1 right now.
He was my dark horse for this class.
Quote from: Ed Vette on September 03, 2024, 06:42:31 PMHe was my dark horse for this class.
Saw Joe Judge in Oxford last weekend in person, he's an analyst for Ole Miss assisting with the Oline and TEs.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 04, 2024, 11:07:04 AMSaw Joe Judge in Oxford last weekend in person, he's an analyst for Ole Miss assisting with the Oline and TEs.
I'm keeping an eye on Ole Miss this season. I think they are going to rise in the SEC by quite a bit...surprisingly so. Alabama, Georgia, LSU, etc., better be ready
Also if you guys have 1 game check marked for this coming week Colorado v Nebraska should be a must watch. Sanders will be a top 10 pick and Freshman Dylan Raiola at Nebraska will be that next transcendent college Qb ala Trevor Lawrence except he's better in my opinion. Plus the kid looks like pat mahomes doppelganger.
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on September 04, 2024, 11:21:09 AMI'm keeping an eye on Ole Miss this season. I think they are going to rise in the SEC by quite a bit...surprisingly so. Alabama, Georgia, LSU, etc., better be ready
Their schedule is remarkably easy outside Georgia at home. I think they go 11-1 losing to Georgia and sneak in as the 5th seed avoiding the SEC championship game.
Give me Ewers or Beck. To me Sanders didnt look good against Nebraska
Quote from: Ed Vette on September 03, 2024, 01:44:06 PMI believe he has good fluid motion and maintains his base in the pocket. I know his arm strength is questioned by some but it looks strong enough for me. He seems to make his reads quickly and makes good decisions. I haven't spent much time scouting him since he had another season and there were 5 other QBs I was looking at. What do you see him as missing? And what's up with no TEs in this Offense?
I hope to god Sanders is not even on their board. His attitude and makeup are the absolute WORST. He's entitled and all he does is make excuses, act like a crybaby, and throw his teammates and coaches under the bus.
Any team that drafts him will regret it. I've never been more sure of something.