Big Blue Huddle

According to Ralph Vacchiano as per an inside source. Yup, read it for yourself.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/evgiants-might-not-be-ready-to-move-on-from-daniel-jones

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 13, 2023, 03:07:49 PMHere is a clip from an article in The Athletic today about him:


Before the season, NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah compared Maye to Carson Palmer, the No. 1 pick in 2003. ESPN analyst Dan Orlovsky said that Maye has "Big Ben" in his game, referencing former Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, on "The Dan Patrick Show" last month after calling some of Maye's games.

"I think he's a superstar in the NFL," Orlovsky said. "I do."

Tim Hasselbeck, an analyst for ESPN and the ACC Network, said earlier this month that he would select Maye over Williams, calling him as "perfect of a prospect (as) I have ever seen in 15 years at ESPN."

Dane Brugler, the draft analyst for The Athletic, rated Maye as the top player in his updated list of the top 50 prospects. Brugler compared him to Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert.

"Cut from the same cloth," Brugler told the "Hoge & Jahns" podcast in October after evaluating two months of tape from this season. "Good-sized quarterback, great feet, big-time arm. You love the command of the offense. And when you evaluate the quarterback position, you always want to see the full inventory of throws, right? So not every college quarterback can give you that. Drake Maye can."

I haven't thought who I would compare him to but Herbert is a closer fit than Big Ben. I think he may wind up going number one. This past Duke win highlighted all his attributes. I would love to have seen him face stiffer competition and as @Bob In PA pointed out that's a talking point. He faces a Clemson team this weekend that is a shell of its former dominant self.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 13, 2023, 03:35:21 PMThat wasn't a wisecrack; it was my effort to try and keep things respectful.  To suggest that people who were "on the DJ bandwagon" are flawed or don't know what they are talking about is, as I suggested, inappropriate, especially in light of injury issues.  We always preach to be respectful and allow all viewpoints, and that comment seemed to be the antithesis of what we preach.

So now you're going to attempt to control content based on observation of other sites? It wasn't meant to be disrespectful and you know it. It's a fact. Getting back to the point here, their followers will vote according to how they were influenced by their content. If another site that wasn't supportive all season took a vote, they would get different results. The lack of Daboll support may be a vocal minority but it's certainly not less than 10%. Among his followers it is. If this keeps up, less than 10% will go up and up.

Right now they support Daboll. They are on the Daboll bandwagon. That can change. 

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 13, 2023, 03:24:43 PMYou are entitled to your opinion, as I am entitled to my different opinion.   We can disagree, but it's not appropriate to put others down for having a different opinion.

Not putting you down. You're still on the bandwagon. Calling a spade a spade. Your wisecrack comment says it all. "Considering the DJ bandwagon ended with injuries, I am unsure of the point you are making." Who's putting who down Rich?

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 13, 2023, 03:17:25 PMI have never been a fan of "I told you so" posting, and I am even less of a fan of negating everything off of half a dozen games under the worst conditions.

You asked and btw, he's a coach killer. I said it two years ago and held out hope. He's hopeless Rich. Give it up.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 13, 2023, 03:09:08 PMConsidering the DJ bandwagon ended with injuries, I am unsure of the point you are making. 

The point is they said that he was playing the worst football of his career. Sorry, I should have known you were still on that bandwagon.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 13, 2023, 12:31:05 PM

You know I respect these gentlemen, but they were on the DJ bandwagon until it was over. They influence their followers too. Guarantee you that as soon as they change course on Daboll, their flock does too.

Quote from: Leek21 on November 13, 2023, 02:26:42 PMThis is not something we can complain about.
It is something we can remember.

Absolutely.

Quote from: LennG on November 13, 2023, 12:40:56 PMJust curious as to what others think about the way Dallas played this game, even when it was out of reach. Like having their second-string QB come in and basically continue the onslaught?

Even the announcers, who, I felt were so biased for Dallas, as they were basically swooning with anything that Dallas did, commented that as a rule of competition, you don't continue to score points when the game is so completely out of hand.

We all know McCarthy is a jerk, was he showing off for Jerrah?

I would say what goes around comes around, but in reality, we never  do this to anyone, even in our good eyars.

Teams will usually run the clock out. What was bad optics was all the cameras clicks and pan ins of them laughing it up on the sidelines. Yes, karma.

Quote from: expatriot on November 13, 2023, 01:22:35 PMWell, the defense has to STOP them. Not chase after them like chickens in the barnyard.

The Defense kept their Offense off the field and the Offense put their Defense right back on the field.

What's the definition of insanity?

https://x.com/giantswfan/status/1724104850936414499?

Quote from: T200 on November 13, 2023, 09:55:10 AMI know Wink is taking his lumps but the defense can only play so long before they get gassed. The offense is so inept, I'm sure all the defensive players will have career highs in snaps this season.

Tim, it was 28-0 at halftime. If the players are gassed before the half, I have to look at the coaches and the strength and conditioning team.

Quote from: Gmo11 on November 13, 2023, 10:53:48 AMRight but I kinda think that is the main reason why this isn't Daboll's fault.  He took a team that was basically as lousy as this one, and got them to play over their heads.  Particularly the QB.  If we are to give him all the blame for this season and call for his job, I don't know how we can take away all of the credit for last year when he was the Coach of the Year.  The performance last year was over achieving, the performance this year is under achieving, but the actual skill level of the team is somewhere in the middle.  Until you lose your top two QBs to injury at which point no matter what you do the team is going to get pummeled.  It's the biggest reason why I don't think teams should even carry a 3rd QB at all.  Anybody pulled off the street can do what Devito is doing so why bother having him around at all.

I don't have much more to say without overstating my points. Go back to the country club training camp and how woefully unprepared this team was entering the season.

Other than that, I just have to disagree with some of you folks here.

Like I said multiple times, I like Brian Daboll a lot and I hope he rights his ship.

The Jets have one of the best Defenses in the NFL. If Rodgers was playing, they win at least five more games. They have Tommy DeVito at QB with two seasons of experience.

Quote from: Gmo11 on November 13, 2023, 10:39:23 AMWhy do you suppose he was so successful last year?

He came in after an autocrat who was a strict disciplinarian that lost the team. But the fundamentals were there.

He was a breath of fresh air who walked into an easy schedule and had some luck on his side, but take a hard look at how the season ended. They were 3-6-1 to end the season and they beat a Vikings team with a high school secondary. The Eagles exposed them for who they were but the wheels started falling off last season.