Big Blue Huddle

Hopefully much better.

I just saw his farewell to Jomboy pod. He went off on them like he did Fire Joe Schoen style. Pulling no punches. There's a lot going on there. Just wondering where it would lead by following the money sponsoring Jomboy Media, and if the Giants Organization is directly or indirectly connected in some way. With what they offered Bobby, what they took away or kept, it was clear that they made him an offer they knew he would refuse. Which on its own was clearly not in their best interests either. Sounds like a big dawg is pulling the strings.

I feel for the man. He's got to basically start all over, but his brand is his name. They can't take that away. I wasn't aware they had a Patreon Channel.

Quote from: Bob In PA on April 01, 2025, 02:45:07 PMRich: That's what they said.  It may have been something else, or it possibly never occurred to them how important a single measurement could be until this year's playoff game between the Bills and Chiefs. lol

One vote "yea" for the Bills, for certain!

Peace!

Ron Dayne, of course!

who is the team's first drafted Heisman winner?

Quote from: Bob In PA on April 01, 2025, 02:40:15 PMFirst, we don't give a rat's ass what alliances form. The hard (and immutable) fact is that we have a trade deficit with almost every country of note. They can try to make alliances, but the reciprocal nature of the tariffs will then just be adjusted to (generally speaking) treat all of the member parties of the alliance as a single country in determining what tariff percentage will be charged to ALL of them. Do you see how this counteracts any alliance?

Second, bringing back manufacturing is essentially to undoing all the damage to the rust belt (and other) states that were once "manufacturing-heavy" (and world leaders). THOSE are the people who've been crushed as jobs "migrated" to (for example) Mexico, Canada and China, starting about twenty years ago (generally speaking).

Just look at the groups who used to vote for one party and now vote more so for the other to see who is desperate for help (at least in the financial sense). Let me know if I failed to address your concern fully and completely.

Bob

1)  When you look at GDP per country, the US can't afford to take on the world.  The alliance I spoke of and the EU easily exceeded the US GDP

2) The rust belt is not the site for any of the supposed new manufacturing locations that Trench listed

3) Runaway inflation and unemployment actually hurt people more than it helps.  There is no doubt many mistakenly believed the political claims that despite the overwhelming majority of economists saying tariffs are bad and economically damaging, they would be good things.

Sadly (as I said before), our economy can't be fooled by political tactics.  The reality is between the economic instability inflicted on our economy, the tariffs, the retaliation, and ill will being created (like how many billions will be lost when Canadians don't vacation in the US this summer), we are going to have a real-world bad impact on our nation and no amount of spin will change that.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2025, 01:34:37 PMIf I recall, they tried it last offseason.  It took longer with the electronics than it did the chain gang

Rich: That's what they said.  It may have been something else, or it possibly never occurred to them how important a single measurement could be until this year's playoff game between the Bills and Chiefs. lol

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2025, 01:38:06 PMI did?   

Rich: You wrote it's unlikely Giants would have signed Wilson only to trade him away, which is correct. That (to me) doesn't rule out trading him away. It's clearly not a direct analogy, but remember that the Giants drafted Rivers and traded him for Eli. If they could do that, they could do my scenario. Bob

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2025, 01:47:05 PMYesterday, Japan and South Korea formed an alliance with China to combat US tariffs and other trade sanctions. I wonder how that alliance will help the US economy or grow manufacturing.

We have seen tariffs raise prices and kill business.   What exactly is it about the manufacturing sector that you think is worth blowing up the US economy and potentially triggering another worldwide great depression just to artificially grow it (and pay higher prices for the goods produced)?

First, we don't give a rat's ass what alliances form. The hard (and immutable) fact is that we have a trade deficit with almost every country of note. They can try to make alliances, but the reciprocal nature of the tariffs will then just be adjusted to (generally speaking) treat all of the member parties of the alliance as a single country in determining what tariff percentage will be charged to ALL of them. Do you see how this counteracts any alliance?

Second, bringing back manufacturing is essentially to undoing all the damage to the rust belt (and other) states that were once "manufacturing-heavy" (and world leaders). THOSE are the people who've been crushed as jobs "migrated" to (for example) Mexico, Canada and China, starting about twenty years ago (generally speaking).

Just look at the groups who used to vote for one party and now vote more so for the other to see who is desperate for help (at least in the financial sense). Let me know if I failed to address your concern fully and completely.

Bob

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2025, 02:02:43 PMI didn't know there would be a quiz. 

Rich: Good one! The additions to the OL plus the injury to Andrew Thomas skewed the numbers, IMO. Speaking more generally, each year we have a decent amount of money to spend means more veteran free agents, which in turn means higher average overall age (and, very likely, higher average starter age). Bob