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MastodonQuote from: DaveBrown74 on November 20, 2024, 05:53:21 PMLenn,
I am with you that Belichick can still be a good if not great coach. That part doesn't particularly concern me. My concern with him is on the roster building side. He really did a horrible job there in his later years in NE and left that roster in absolute shambles. Many of his draft picks were shocking. That was 100% on him because he was singularly in charge. I cannot see any way Belichick would agree to come to the Giants and just be the coach and not insist on having a major say in the roster, if not the final say. Based on the results in NE once he lost Brady, I'm not sure I want that being brought to the Giants, even with him being a great coach.
Quote from: MightyGiants on November 20, 2024, 03:48:41 PMIn my opinion, a wise move by Daboll
https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1859337583618294224
I will also add that this sort of move is the type one makes if one is seriously trying to win more games. I say that, because in my consumption of football media, I have heard speculation that putting DeVito in was an indication the team was actively trying to tank.
Quote from: katkavage on November 20, 2024, 06:57:56 PMAll correct, Kart. But Mara wants to win now.To stop the bleeding. The whole Jones era set the franchise back a decade. It never should have lasted this long. That's not on Jones but the fools that should have known better.
Quote from: kartanoman on November 20, 2024, 06:19:37 PMI want to jump on your bandwagon, kat, I really do. I also get what a QB vs. other position for pick #1 does for Daboll and possibly/likely Schoen. Both are going to have to carefully evaluate the risk vs. opportunity at where they will pick as well as whom they will pick. I also agree it is way too early to assess that risk right now.All correct, Kart. But Mara wants to win now.To stop the bleeding. The whole Jones era set the franchise back a decade. It never should have lasted this long. That's not on Jones but the fools that should have known better.
But I want to throw caution to the wind and make sure our "informed" board of Giants' fans here understand that a Lisfranc injury on an often-injured Left Tackle, despite what articles were written about Thomas' injury, IN GENERAL, which claimed he should have no problem resuming his career and, oh, by the way, his arthritic condition is "gonna suck" when he gets to our age so "don't worry about it." I have a first-hand, up-close and personal experience with someone who recently had a broken tibia & fibula PLUS a Lisfranc fracture AND came out of it running better now than ever before. I'm talking about my wife, who turned 55 last month, and had plates and screws put in for the Lisfranc, base of the tibia and fibula which, initially, did NOT heal properly. They had to refracture the Lisfranc and repair it again. Her four to six month recovery turned into nearly a whole year. She made it work by losing weight, hitting the gym hard to build strength around her injury and slowly took up running again. She has her days where it hurts but, by and large, she feels wonderful and she doesn't look a day over 30 right now (lucky me!).
But that's the story of a petite woman when we're talking about a 340+ pound Left Tackle with a history of lower leg injuries and this being perhaps the most devastating of all. I have little doubt he is going to give his all to come back and be ready for opening day 2025. But we have to see it as it is in terms of the cumulative effect of these injuries slowly, but surely, impacting his overall performance and durability.
I would be willing to back off his replacement if you can convince me the Giants draft or sign a projected starting tackle who is versatile at either tackle position or, along the line of what you are thinking, a Left Tackle/Guard who could jump into either position and contribute immediately.
In the end, it logically obvious the QB is the most pressing need right now. But it is also obvious that the Giants need to help out Andrew Thomas with a suitable yet capable backup who can either hold the fort down in his absence or, worst case scenario, be his eventual replacement if he can't go all 17 games. The best predictor of future history is looking at recent past which is a lot of missed games due to injury. The bottom line is the Giants' overall performance on offense tanked the moment Thomas left the field after he fractured his Lisfranc and they haven't been the same since. That simply cannot happen and exposing a rookie to NFL defenses without a suitable Left Tackle should also be punishable by losing your job,, in my humble opinion.
Peace!
