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3 QB needy teams and only two QBs left

Started by MightyGiants, March 11, 2025, 11:04:16 AM

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MightyGiants

Three teams (Steelers, Vikings, and Giants) need a veteran QB

The two left:

Rodgers
Wilson

So who gets left chasing Jamis Winston?
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H-Town G-Fan

Steelers probably get Rodgers. I'm not convinced Vikings won't just go with a cheaper option believing in KOC to coach a Minshew-type up and knowing they can turn over the reigns to JJ at some point.

MightyGiants

QB deals so far:

🏈Sam Darnold Seahawks: 3 years, $100.5M
🏈Justin Fields Jets: 2 years, $40M
🏈Daniel Jones Colts: 1 year, $14M
🏈Jimmy Garoppolo Rams: 1 year, $4M
🏈Zach Wilson Dolphins: 1 year, $6M
🏈Josh Dobbs Patriots: 2 years, $8M
🏈Jarrett Stidham Broncos: 2 years, $12M
🏈Nick Mullens Jaguars: 2 years, $6.5M

Still out there: Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Mac Jones, Gardner Minshew, Jameis Winston, Joe Flacco, Marcus Mariota, Cooper Rush, Jacoby Brissett, Drew Lock, Trey Lance, Carson Wentz, amongst others.

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londonblue

I am not alone I suspect in preferring us to take anyone but Rodgers and Wilson. There is no sense for me in tying up cap in a veteran guy who is not the future and who recent form suggests is no sure thing to win many games.

I'd rather take eg Jameis and a cheap deal for Lance or Ridder to fight it out. We then let the draft come to us. If Ward is there at 3, fine take him. If not take a McCord or Shough or ANO in a mid round and go BPA at 3,34.

So far in free agency Schoen has been disciplined and put the bulk of his money to younger players with a high floor and good ceiling. Why spoil that throwing $ at yesterday's men at QB?!
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MightyGiants

Quote from: londonblue on March 11, 2025, 11:30:01 AMI am not alone I suspect in preferring us to take anyone but Rodgers and Wilson. There is no sense for me in tying up cap in a veteran guy who is not the future and who recent form suggests is no sure thing to win many games.

I'd rather take eg Jameis and a cheap deal for Lance or Ridder to fight it out. We then let the draft come to us. If Ward is there at 3, fine take him. If not take a McCord or Shough or ANO in a mid round and go BPA at 3,34.

So far in free agency Schoen has been disciplined and put the bulk of his money to younger players with a high floor and good ceiling. Why spoil that throwing $ at yesterday's men at QB?!

To your question, Schoen and Daboll need to show results this year.  That would be the primary reason they would "spoil that (by) throwing $ at yesterday's men at QB"
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Painter

Don't want Rodgers or Wilson. Can't see them getting Ward without a trade-up which I'd rather not see. Thus, I'm still promoting a tandem of Mariota and Dart at 34 or with a reasonable move up for a second go in Round 1. But, I'd be fine with Winston as the "bridge".

Cheers! 

madbadger

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 11:04:16 AMThree teams (Steelers, Vikings, and Giants) need a veteran QB

The two left:

Rodgers
Wilson

So who gets left chasing Jamis Winston?

NY is the least attractive of the three for a veteran quarterback. I'm guessing Winston it is.

Brooklyn Dave

Quote from: Painter on March 11, 2025, 11:37:54 AMDon't want Rodgers or Wilson. Can't see them getting Ward without a trade-up which I'd rather not see. Thus, I'm still promoting a tandem of Mariota and Dart at 34 or with a reasonable move up for a second go in Round 1. But, I'd be fine with Winston as the "bridge".

Cheers!




Dart will not be there at 34

Stringer Bell

Quote from: londonblue on March 11, 2025, 11:30:01 AMI am not alone I suspect in preferring us to take anyone but Rodgers and Wilson. There is no sense for me in tying up cap in a veteran guy who is not the future and who recent form suggests is no sure thing to win many games.

I'd rather take eg Jameis and a cheap deal for Lance or Ridder to fight it out. We then let the draft come to us. If Ward is there at 3, fine take him. If not take a McCord or Shough or ANO in a mid round and go BPA at 3,34.

So far in free agency Schoen has been disciplined and put the bulk of his money to younger players with a high floor and good ceiling. Why spoil that throwing $ at yesterday's men at QB?!

I mostly agree with this, although I think Russ comes cheaper than we might think only because he really doesn't have any other option if he wants to start (Pitt will sign Rodgers, and I don't think KOC is interested in Russ).

So I'm fine signing him for 1 year, and then rather than sign a dart throw guy (Ridder, for example, is awful), I'd try and get Milton for a 2026 5th.

Then, like you said, let the draft happen. They won't pass on Ward if he's there at 3, but my preference is still to hold off until the 4th where they can choose between Cook / Shough / McCord.

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Garoppalo would've been a nice get as a one-year fill-in. Patriots are doing well in free agency...as far as I can tell...which isn't much  :doh:
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Jclayton92

Quote from: Painter on March 11, 2025, 11:37:54 AMDon't want Rodgers or Wilson. Can't see them getting Ward without a trade-up which I'd rather not see. Thus, I'm still promoting a tandem of Mariota and Dart at 34 or with a reasonable move up for a second go in Round 1. But, I'd be fine with Winston as the "bridge".

Cheers!

I'm right there with you, I'd love a Minshew/Dart combo with bpa at pick 3.

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Jclayton92

My suspicion is that if we wanted Russell Wilson he would sign immediately. We are holding out for Rodgers and is why Wilson hasn't signed yet.


Kind of an out of the box thought but I'd love to sign Rodgers for 2 years, and trade a 4th or 5th for Milton and let him be the development guy. I feel significantly better about Milton than Sanders, plus this would allow you to use the entire draft for bpa to go with the great defense you've assembled. Use the draft for offense, and we could have a really solid squad.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 03:45:56 PMMy suspicion is that if we wanted Russell Wilson he would sign immediately. We are holding out for Rodgers and is why Wilson hasn't signed yet.


Kind of an out of the box thought but I'd love to sign Rodgers for 2 years, and trade a 4th or 5th for Milton and let him be the development guy. I feel significantly better about Milton than Sanders, plus this would allow you to use the entire draft for bpa to go with the great defense you've assembled. Use the draft for offense, and we could have a really solid squad.

I like the first part.  I am not so sure about Milton
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Stringer Bell

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 03:45:56 PMMy suspicion is that if we wanted Russell Wilson he would sign immediately. We are holding out for Rodgers and is why Wilson hasn't signed yet.


I think this is 100% correct.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 03:45:56 PMKind of an out of the box thought but I'd love to sign Rodgers for 2 years, and trade a 4th or 5th for Milton and let him be the development guy. I feel significantly better about Milton than Sanders, plus this would allow you to use the entire draft for bpa to go with the great defense you've assembled. Use the draft for offense, and we could have a really solid squad.

I don't want to give any vet - especially Rodgers - a 2-year deal. Reason being is that even with a trade for Milton - which I'm onboard with - I still would want to draft a QB high in 2026. With Rodgers or Russ in tow for 2025, it's not like we're going to learn much about Milton. So we'll still need options - and while I agree Milton has promise - I think the '26 class of QBs will have upwards of 5 guys with at least as much (if not more) promise as Milton.