Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 10:40:31 AMNo they are not misleading, I put their contract amount and their production for the year, it couldn't be more straightforward than that. I like to assume people here aren't idiots, so if they see Hollywood brown only had 91 yards last season then they probably know he didn't play that much without me having to spell it out for them.

Now you're just lying. You literally left out Davante's stats before the trade.

Quote from: Bob In PA on March 11, 2025, 10:25:47 AMThe Giants - loyal to a fault... except for Saquon Barkley. Nice job. Bob

First thing I thought, great signed Slayton for Barkley money. 

WTF

Quote from: Bob In PA on March 11, 2025, 10:25:47 AMThe Giants - loyal to a fault... except for Saquon Barkley. Nice job. Bob

The Giants have let plenty of players go besides SB. Gettleman got rid of every single Reese guy but Slayton. Schoen has done a slightly better job but you need to add Love and McKinney to this list.

Quote from: TDToomer on March 11, 2025, 11:09:16 AMThe Giants have let plenty of players go besides SB. Gettleman got rid of every single Reese guy but Slayton. Schoen has done a slightly better job but you need to add Love and McKinney to this list.

TD: True, but none of them (guys like McKinney, for example) deserved the team's loyalty more than Barkley, IMO. Bob

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on March 11, 2025, 10:53:35 AMNow you're just lying. You literally left out Davante's stats before the trade.

Dude what's your problem? You get emotional yesterday because I said "use our whole draft" in reference to a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rd pick and now you are so bent our of shape about literally nothing.

https://www.google.com/search?q=devante+adams+stats&oq=devante+adams&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg7MgYIARBFGDkyCQgCECMYJxixAjIPCAMQLhgKGIMBGLEDGIAEMg8IBBAAGAoYgwEYsQMYgAQyDwgFEAAYChiDARixAxiABDIPCAYQABgKGIMBGLEDGIAEMg8IBxAAGAoYgwEYsQMYgAQyCQgIEAAYChiABDIICAkQABgDGAoyDwgKEAAYChiDARixAxiABDIICAsQABgDGAoyDwgMEAAYChiDARixAxiABDIJCA0QABgKGIAEMgkIDhAAGAoYgATSAQg2MzgzajBqN6gCFLACAfEFfWuVYbabQYo&client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ebo=1

I got his stats from right there along with the other wrs and put his 2024 totals, I did not see the additional 2024 as they typically combine the totals on Google instead of doing them separately.

You know how easy it would have been to say "thanks for putting up the contract numbers and stats for fa wrs but you accidentally left off Adams stats with the raiders".

Instead you needlessly call me a liar, as if I would intentionally lie about devante adams on purpose is comical and make a big deal out of something that is absolutely nothing. I was putting out stats and facts about the Wrs as I've been doing with every FA signing so far to get people up to speed. Maybe you woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or I don't know but it's ridiculous, for what amounts to an accident. So I'll Apologize to Adams for the staggering 200 yards I didn't see, and give to him.

From the numbers seems like Slayton only got 22 million guaranteed and the contract is basically a 2 yr 24 million dollar deal. So basically 12 a year, which is more a lot more reasonable.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 03:09:22 PMDude what's your problem? You get emotional yesterday because I said "use our whole draft" in reference to a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rd pick and now you are so bent our of shape about literally nothing.

https://www.google.com/search?q=devante+adams+stats&oq=devante+adams&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg7MgYIARBFGDkyCQgCECMYJxixAjIPCAMQLhgKGIMBGLEDGIAEMg8IBBAAGAoYgwEYsQMYgAQyDwgFEAAYChiDARixAxiABDIPCAYQABgKGIMBGLEDGIAEMg8IBxAAGAoYgwEYsQMYgAQyCQgIEAAYChiABDIICAkQABgDGAoyDwgKEAAYChiDARixAxiABDIICAsQABgDGAoyDwgMEAAYChiDARixAxiABDIJCA0QABgKGIAEMgkIDhAAGAoYgATSAQg2MzgzajBqN6gCFLACAfEFfWuVYbabQYo&client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ebo=1

I got his stats from right there along with the other wrs and put his 2024 totals, I did not see the additional 2024 as they typically combine the totals on Google instead of doing them separately.

You know how easy it would have been to say "thanks for putting up the contract numbers and stats for fa wrs but you accidentally left off Adams stats with the raiders".

Instead you needlessly call me a liar, as if I would intentionally lie about devante adams on purpose is comical and make a big deal out of something that is absolutely nothing. I was putting out stats and facts about the Wrs as I've been doing with every FA signing so far to get people up to speed. Maybe you woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or I don't know but it's ridiculous, for what amounts to an accident. So I'll Apologize to Adams for the staggering 200 yards I didn't see, and give to him.

Yeah, I'm the emotional one, okay. I said you were lying because you continued to misrepresent the facts even after being corrected. Lying doesn't have to be intentional and calling someone out for lying is not the same as calling them a liar. Carry on with the incessant cheerleading of every move. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who can't wrap their head around criticism of a team coming off a 3 win season is not to be taken seriously.

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 10, 2025, 07:05:49 PMHe has often gotten plenty of hate here, and I always thought it wasn't deserved. He is a very under appreciated player. I never understood tbe Slayton hate on here

Good signing for about what I expected him to make.

Because most see him a 3rd receiver on a good day.  If he is one of your top-2, you are likely not a very good team.

Quote from: TDToomer on March 11, 2025, 11:09:16 AMThe Giants have let plenty of players go besides SB. Gettleman got rid of every single Reese guy but Slayton. Schoen has done a slightly better job but you need to add Love and McKinney to this list.

Not to be picky but Slayton was a Gettleman selection in 2019

Quote from: coggs on March 11, 2025, 04:33:45 PMBecause most see him a 3rd receiver on a good day.  If he is one of your top-2, you are likely not a very good team.

C'mon @coggs ! It's not even likely. We all know how this team has stacked up against the competition over the years and at least, outside of Barkley, Slayton was a contributor to the offense. Maybe that doesn't say much to some; however, in the grand scheme, it's more than many!

If he lasts long enough to the point this group turns it around, we'll find out whether he's WR3 material or the team has upgraded around him to where he's buried at the bottom of the depth chart. But at least we can't knock him for being the consummate soldier, like the "Jimmy Robinson" of the modern era! Now THAT was a heck of a receiver from the Wilderness Years (The Original, for those of you who don't know the player).

Even Earnest Gray made it over the hump for a year with the 1984 Giants before they moved on without him. If the Giants DO happen to get over the hump, most expect the same scenario with Slayton. Like everything else, we shall have to wait and see.

Let's just hope they can turn it around, first and foremost!

Peace!

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 03:11:19 PMFrom the numbers seems like Slayton only got 22 million guaranteed and the contract is basically a 2 yr 24 million dollar deal. So basically 12 a year, which is more a lot more reasonable.

On what planet are these the stats of a $12MM per year receiver?

Season   Age   Team   Lg   Pos   G   GS   Tgt   Rec   Yds   Y/R     TD

2023   26   NYG   NFL   WR   17   13   79   50   770   15.4   4
2024   27   NYG   NFL   WR   16   13   71   39   573   14.7   2

Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on March 11, 2025, 05:03:50 PMNot to be picky but Slayton was a Gettleman selection in 2019

My bad, got him confused with Shep who was also resigned twice but at a reasonable salary that he was worth.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 03:11:19 PMFrom the numbers seems like Slayton only got 22 million guaranteed and the contract is basically a 2 yr 24 million dollar deal. So basically 12 a year, which is more a lot more reasonable.

And a lot less than the Eagles gave Barkley.

I get that he's a WR... I get that he's had good stats last year.

But we didn't sing Barkley for 36mm and now did it for Slayton.

Sorry but I don't get that.

Quote from: GordonGekko80 on March 12, 2025, 09:58:29 AMI get that he's a WR... I get that he's had good stats last year.

But we didn't sing Barkley for 36mm and now did it for Slayton.

Sorry but I don't get that.

Gordon,

The average top 5 WR Salary Cap Players- $27.43
RB- $11.82

The average top 5 WR Contracts- $129.6, Slayton ranks- #29 at $36.0 MM
RB- $41.04, Barkley ranks- #3 $41.2 MM

The positional value of WR is 3 times higher for a contract. Yet, Barkley's contract with the Eagles has $14 million more in guaranteed money than Slayton. His average salary is $8.6 million higher than Slayton.

It doesn't matter what they were offered by the Giants. It's what the market valued them at. The price the Giants offered Barkley would be ranked at #5. He left for $5.1 million dollars more.