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In the draft, would you rather the Giants draft a guard or a tackle?


LT   78   Thomas, Andrew 20/1      Hudson, James U/Cle   75   Ezeudu, Joshua 22/3            
LG   76   Runyan, Jon U/GB   64   STINNIE, AARON U/TB                  
C   61   Schmitz Jr., John Michael 23/2   65   Schlottmann, Austin U/Min   67   Morrissey, Jimmy SF24   60   Hudson, Bryan SF24      
RG   74   VAN ROTEN, GREG U/LV   63   Kubas, Jake CF24      73   Neal, Evan 22/1                  
RT   72   ELUEMUNOR, JERMAINE U/LV      Forsythe, Stone U/Sea   

will Thomas be back 100% ????? IMO that is the crucial element here

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 31, 2025, 10:46:25 AMIn the draft, would you rather the Giants draft a guard or a tackle?


LT    78    Thomas, Andrew 20/1        Hudson, James U/Cle    75    Ezeudu, Joshua 22/3               
LG    76    Runyan, Jon U/GB    64    STINNIE, AARON U/TB                       
C    61    Schmitz Jr., John Michael 23/2    65    Schlottmann, Austin U/Min    67    Morrissey, Jimmy SF24    60    Hudson, Bryan SF24       
RG    74    VAN ROTEN, GREG U/LV    63    Kubas, Jake CF24      73    Neal, Evan 22/1                       
RT    72    ELUEMUNOR, JERMAINE U/LV        Forsythe, Stone U/Sea   

The Giants need both.  We have so much OL depth that consists of horrible players.  Eze is horrible.  There Re plenty more.  Draft an OT and a Guard and push JE to back up for both.

This should be the Year of the Trenches.

Guys like this

Round 1 -  Carter, Hunter or Graham
Round 2 - Donovan Jackson, Darius Alexander, Josh Connerly
Round 3 - Ozzy Trapilo, Marcus Mbow (for interior), Tate Ratledge, Josiah Stewart

I hope they draft (in any order) an OT, G, DT and Edge

Quote from: President Rick on March 31, 2025, 10:56:28 AMwill Thomas be back 100% ????? IMO that is the crucial element here

Rick, that is an excellent point.  Thomas should be able to return, but the year post Lisfranc Injury tends to be a down year for many players.


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I agree on drafting both.   If the talent is the same, tackle is the more critical need based on AT injury history. I suspect it will be easier to draft a starting guard in rd 2 or 3 and a development swing tackle as well 

Guard first, round 2. Tackle early day 3.

Quote from: londonblue on March 31, 2025, 11:11:09 AMGuard first, round 2. Tackle early day 3.

I would flip-flop only because you are more likely to find a competent guard on day three than you will find a tackle

Guard is a bigger need in my opinion.  I'd rather not count on Evan Neal being useful as a guard as the only way to upgrade that spot.  I'd go guard as early as round 2 but no later than round 3.  If they can also get a Tackle they feel is worthwhile that's fine, but i think they'd get more bang for their buck even at DT rather than OT. 

If Tate Ratledge is there at 34, you have to absolutely consider it heavily. I think he will sneak in the 1st but we will see, shortage of guards it seems around the league, and potentially in this draft as far as day 1, or early starters.

Day 3 is where I would look for OT, Cornelius, Trapilo, Belton, Pierce, Hinton and others, we don't need a day one starter, any OT we bring it would be 4th on the chart. Alot of solid options we can try to develop and bolster depth with.

OG doesn't have as many options, but Slater, Truss, or Kandra could be later options I suppose.

Jonah Monheim can play T,G, or C, could be a valuable depth piece on Day 3.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 31, 2025, 11:13:13 AMI would flip-flop only because you are more likely to find a competent guard on day three than you will find a tackle

Who do you like on Day 3 for G?

I think we should move to have a top 5 or possibly the best defense in the league

I think Round 1 should be Carter or Graham

If its Carter

You go DT in round 2

If you draft Graham in the first then you go for Guard in the second

Quote from: Gmo11 on March 31, 2025, 11:23:52 AMGuard is a bigger need in my opinion.  I'd rather not count on Evan Neal being useful as a guard as the only way to upgrade that spot.  I'd go guard as early as round 2 but no later than round 3.  If they can also get a Tackle they feel is worthwhile that's fine, but i think they'd get more bang for their buck even at DT rather than OT. 

If the Giants draft an OT on day 2, who can start, ELUEMUNOR can be thrown in the mix at guard (which is where the Giants originally started him out).

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 31, 2025, 11:30:53 AMIf the Giants draft an OT on day 2, who can start, ELUEMUNOR can be thrown in the mix at guard (which is where the Giants originally started him out).

That's an excellent point and something I hadn't considered.  Totally on board with that plan if that's the plan.  And, of course, the OL they draft doesn't stink like most of the previous ones they've drafted have.

I apologize if this question derails the thread and please delete if it detracts from the original question, but does anyone have any concern for Schmitz jr? I don't have pff, so I'm unsure if he is better than my perception of him, however he does appear to be below average....or very below average.

I know he's pretty and looks the part, but as we've seen with other draft picks that we as big blue fans tend to overvalue players the Giants draft, and this seems to be another draft pick in that mode.

Does this make a guard more a necessity over tackle when drafting in your opinions?

Just a thought.

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Quote from: Topshelf21 on March 31, 2025, 11:42:50 AMI apologize if this question derails the thread and please delete if it detracts from the original question, but does anyone have any concern for Schmitz jr? I don't have pff, so I'm unsure if he is better than my perception of him, however he does appear to be below average....or very below average.

I know he's pretty and looks the part, but as we've seen with other draft picks that we as big blue fans tend to overvalue players the Giants draft, and this seems to be another draft pick in that mode.

Does this make a guard more a necessity over tackle when drafting in your opinions?

Just a thought.

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Since you asked about JMS

His PFF grade is 61.4, which ranks him 28th out of 40 centers

I really thought JMS was going to be better than this.  He was an older center.  His profile suggested a high-floor/low-ceiling type of player.  What we ended up with was a guy hitting the floor, and that floor was a bit lower than expected.