Big Blue Huddle

Based on how JT qualified his ranking, I can understand how he got there. I saw most of his videos of games on his Patreon Community Channel. That said,

Cam Ward is the safest bet of this class, but when it comes down the the "It Factor", lets not forget who he lost games to. And yes, Miami's Defense was a liability.

Shedeur is all JT said he is, however I didn't see a lot of anticipation in his throws. Also a lot of contested catches by his bro. His passing velocity is not something to be ignored. In short windows of separation in this League, he better not be Bird Dog'in. I too have to put a lot of issues on that Offensive Line and Shurmer's safe Playbook, but if you have any questions about Pressure, it doesn't get any better in the NFL. Sean Payton isn't looking for a QB.

I agree that Quinn Ewers showed some true talent that definitely transfers to the next level. Until he can prove that his arm can be 100% to what it needs to be, even with that elite anticipation, he can't be taking chances. That definitely showed up on film.

In my opinion, there's a valid argument that Jaxson Dart could be the number two guy in this class as his potential is within realistic grasp. Yes, he seemed to struggle through his reads at times but there were times he showed the ability. I personally believe he fits exactly what Brian Daboll is looking for. Daboll's wish list dreams of a Milroe with a QB brain, but then he wakes up.

Shough, lacks experience even at his advanced age and the potential is absolutely there, but the WTFs are alarming.

A complete wiff on passing on Kyle McCord. My personal opinion, he has the QB brain that can win in this league, and contrary to popular opinion, the man can spin it.

Again, overall I can agree with how he got to his ranking. JT is the best QB evaluator within his self established pervue. 

You touched on something that troubled me in this QB class.  Most of the top picks failed to make the college QB playoffs.  I appreciate it's a team sport, but having a future NFL starting QB should give a team a leg up in terms of making the college playoffs, or at least having an impressive record.

Yet Cam Ward, Jaxson Dart, and Milroe all missed the playoffs despite playing for high-end programs

Sanders only generated a 9-3 record.

McCord at least gave Syracuse a double-digit win record at 10-3

The only prospects who generated real success for their programs were champion Will Howard and runner-up Riley Leonard, but neither is considered a top prospect

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 23, 2025, 10:02:18 AMYou touched on something that troubled me in this QB class.  Most of the top picks failed to make the college QB playoffs.  I appreciate it's a team sport, but having a future NFL starting QB should give a team a leg up in terms of making the college playoffs, or at least having an impressive record.

Yet Cam Ward, Jaxson Dart, and Milroe all missed the playoffs despite playing for high-end programs

Sanders only generated a 9-3 record.

McCord at least gave Syracuse a double-digit win record at 10-3

The only prospects who generated real success for their programs were champion Will Howard and runner-up Riley Leonard, but neither is considered a top prospect

I think if the Playoff system wasn't so glad handing and trying to make every conference happy, Miami, Alabama, and Ole Miss would have or should have been in the playoffs.

A little homer-ism I admit. Howard went to a local high school and Gruden really likes. Could be a great day 2 pick in MHO.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/downingtown-west-s-will-howard-impresses-jon-gruden-on-the-ex-coach-s-rebooted-qb-camp/ar-AA1CBL8D?ocid=BingNewsSerp

https://youtu.be/RfxIMfj4huk?si=gMYiqUcNxX37qoQX


It's a great pod, talks Monte kiffin, Saban, NIL, Playoffs etc

But at the 38 minute mark he explains why Jaxson Dart despite the offensive stigma is going to be elite in the NFL.

Quote from: dasher on April 23, 2025, 11:00:15 AMA little homer-ism I admit. Howard went to a local high school and Gruden really likes. Could be a great day 2 pick in MHO.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/downingtown-west-s-will-howard-impresses-jon-gruden-on-the-ex-coach-s-rebooted-qb-camp/ar-AA1CBL8D?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Dale,

I sort of see Howard as a plan B if I were targeting McCord, and another team beats NYG to him.  The only issue I see is that there have been no reports indicating the Giants have any interest in Howard.

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 23, 2025, 09:54:08 AMBased on how JT qualified his ranking, I can understand how he got there. I saw most of his videos of games on his Patreon Community Channel. That said,

Cam Ward is the safest bet of this class, but when it comes down the the "It Factor", lets not forget who he lost games to. And yes, Miami's Defense was a liability.

Shedeur is all JT said he is, however I didn't see a lot of anticipation in his throws. Also a lot of contested catches by his bro. His passing velocity is not something to be ignored. In short windows of separation in this League, he better not be Bird Dog'in. I too have to put a lot of issues on that Offensive Line and Shurmer's safe Playbook, but if you have any questions about Pressure, it doesn't get any better in the NFL. Sean Payton isn't looking for a QB.

I agree that Quinn Ewers showed some true talent that definitely transfers to the next level. Until he can prove that his arm can be 100% to what it needs to be, even with that elite anticipation, he can't be taking chances. That definitely showed up on film.

In my opinion, there's a valid argument that Jaxson Dart could be the number two guy in this class as his potential is within realistic grasp. Yes, he seemed to struggle through his reads at times but there were times he showed the ability. I personally believe he fits exactly what Brian Daboll is looking for. Daboll's wish list dreams of a Milroe with a QB brain, but then he wakes up.

Shough, lacks experience even at his advanced age and the potential is absolutely there, but the WTFs are alarming.

A complete wiff on passing on Kyle McCord. My personal opinion, he has the QB brain that can win in this league, and contrary to popular opinion, the man can spin it.

Again, overall I can agree with how he got to his ranking. JT is the best QB evaluator within his self established pervue. 

Great watch, I don't agree with everything but you gotta respect the work put into it.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 23, 2025, 11:02:19 AMDale,

I sort of see Howard as a plan B if I were targeting McCord, and another team beats NYG to him.  The only issue I see is that there have been no reports indicating the Giants have any interest in Howard.

There are only 2 qbs that really fit Dabolls qb mold. When I think a daboll qb I think Hurts, Farve, and Allen. Only Dart and Milroe fit that mold imo so they were the only two I've taken seriously as options from the beginning.