Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 08:08:22 AMI suspect the unprecedented fall by Sanders, combined with his high profile (how many prospects have the President chiming in?), may have teams shying away from him at this point.  Any team that drafts Sanders at this point invites a media circus and distraction into their building

I thought the Raiders would have picked him late last night.

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 26, 2025, 08:13:26 AMI thought the Raiders would have picked him late last night.

I thought that might happen as well.  I understand Brady is close with the family

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 08:19:49 AMI thought that might happen as well.  I understand Brady is close with the family

I think he's a good fit there as a backup who could prove himself as the successor to Geno. If he's coachable. 

The lack of an agent was not a good thing for Sanders.  An agent helps create good spin and PR for a prospect during the draft evaluation process.  I know teams would like to pretend the effort's of agents is meaningless, but I think in reality a good agent does help a prospect.




Dan Duggan
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The thing that sticks out about Shedeur's slide is he either got bad info or was delusional. He didn't participate in any all-star game, didn't workout at the combine and didn't do any athletic testing.

That's how a top pick handles the draft process. So why did he think he was going to be a top pick? He doesn't have an agent, so teams presumably were communicating directly with Deion. Was he misled? It will be very interesting to hear what he has to say when this is over.

https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1916014756730700155

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 08:27:17 AMhttps://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1916014756730700155

Did he really invite the Race Card Crowd to join in? Ok, that was me before Wilson, Winston and Ward. But WWW proved that wrong.

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 26, 2025, 08:43:47 AMDid he really invite the Race Card Crowd to join in? Ok, that was me before Wilson, Winston and Ward. But WWW proved that wrong.

Race has played a role in how some people perceive this story, from what I have seen.  For some, race has triggered anger/resentment in others, it has triggered improper joy in a man's very public suffering/wake-up call

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 08:49:16 AMRace has played a role in how some people perceive this story, from what I have seen.  For some, race has triggered anger/resentment in others, it has triggered improper joy in a man's very public suffering/wake-up call

SCHADENFREUDE In this case is reserved for assholes.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 08:08:22 AMI suspect the unprecedented fall by Sanders, combined with his high profile (how many prospects have the President chiming in?), may have teams shying away from him at this point.  Any team that drafts Sanders at this point invites a media circus and distraction into their building

Unless a team with a well established QB in place wants to groom him to be their backup, I think he's going undrafted

Quote from: coggs on April 25, 2025, 07:38:52 PMwell, they did twice, er three times. 

Indeed...tells us what the league thinks of him. 

I think...FWIW, is that he feels entitled and carries a chip on his shoulder. When QBs are brought in for personal interviews, the coaches are going to throw a lot of complex hypothetical situations at him. My bet is...he wasn't prepared and relied on the hidden message, "you know what I can do...just look at my stats" and "don't forget I'm Dionne's son"

Very talented kid that probably uses natural ability to have had success. But in the NFL, a QB needs to read and digest complex defensive formations on the fly, and explain in detail what he would do under those circumstances. I suspect Shedeur was not prepared and unable to answer questions that suited the coaches

When you look at Dart's and McCord's "QB camp" with Gruden...they blew him away with their understanding of complex situations. In Dart's case, he started almost every answer with a humble, "yes sir" and showed an immense amount of respect and humility whilst answering the most complex questions. I doubt Shedeur showed any humility and came across as arrogant and entitled. That's my best guess anyway. As another side kicker, whoever takes him will have to deal with the chaos of his father's notoriety and the press will be like the paparazzi. Not many teams want that kind of attention that has little to do with winning football games. Serious teams like serious players and staying out of the big lights unrelated to the game

IMHO, there has to be more to this than just talent. We all have seen teams take guys who served time in jail, who beat their wives, who do so many things, but if you have anything, teams will take a shot, hoping you can overcome. We see the same terrible QBs making the rounds year after year, with teams basically knowing they aren't any good, but giving them a shot anyway.
So why wasn't Sanders even given a morsel?

He has to have some talent, even if he is a conceited a**hole. Someone, you would think, would at least give him a shot. This has nothing to do with race. You have a Black HC in Pittsburgh who is desperate for a quarterback with any talent.

There has to be much more behind this than what anyone really can see.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 08:27:17 AMhttps://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1916014756730700155

 

I can see the response to this now. Some Aussie Rules barricker from Melbourne taking a trip up to Sydney to watch their footy club do battle with the Swans at the Sydney Cricket Ground writing this rubbish as the proprietor responds in kind:

"Well, then stuff it up yours and order the meat pie next time, ya bloody flog!"

All smiles from my corner of the AFL world as my Collingwood Football Club took care of business against Essendon, as part of Australia's ANZAC Day weekend, to consolidate top spot on the league ladder.

As for the kangaroo meat sub proprietor, that post above to him made about as much sense to him as my paragraph above makes sense to you all.

Peace!

One thing agents do is send their clients to places that teach their clients how to interview well.

Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
Two realities ...

1) Shedeur Sanders fell out of the first round because of talent and performance.

2) He's still available now because of everything else. At this point of the draft, teams are looking for depth and developmental players. If you're taken in the third round or fourth round or fifth round, you're going to be working in the background.

That would make Shedeur a backup quarterback. Backup QBs need to blend with in the furniture. It's why Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick, and even guys like Jay Cutler and Cam Newton had trouble extending their careers—if those guys weren't going to start for you, you'd probably rather just have the anonymous guy who'd support the starter and make ZERO headlines.

Backup quarterback is a different job than starting quarterback, which is why the NFL's collective two-deep isn't just a list of the 64 best QBs on the planet.

Can Shedeur be the developmental guy, who's going to be all-in on his team, and quietly go about his business? Maybe. But he's never had to do that, and the way his pre-draft process has been handled casts a lot of doubt on it.

So I don't know who stops his fall, but I think it'll have to be someone who can draw hard lines with him.