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Found on Reddit- Grading the graders

Started by MightyGiants, April 29, 2025, 10:56:43 AM

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MightyGiants

I thought this was very well done:


Everyone always talks about how this guy is not accurate or so-and-so is a hack. I took 11 of the most well known mock drafters and graded them on three categories. -Correct picks
-Picks correct within 5 spots
-Picks in the 1st round
I did not take trades into consideration, both in the actual draft and ones proposed in mocks.

Most Correct Picks
1) Mel Kiper 11
2T) Charlie Campbell 8
2T) Todd McShay 8
2T) WalterFootball 8
2T} Peter Schrager 8
2T} Chris Simms 8
7} Bucky Brooks 7
8T} Dane Brugler 6
8T} Daniel Jeremiah 6
10T) Lance Zierlein 5
10T) Charles Davis 5

Within 5 Spots
1) DJ 21
2T} Kiper 18
2T) Campbell 18
2T) Walter 18
5) Schrager 17
6T) Brugler 16
6T) McShay 16
6T. Zierlein 16
9T) Davis 13
9T) Simms 13
11) Brooks 9

1st Rounders
1T. Schrager 29
1T. Simms 29
1T. Walter 29
1T. Zierlein 29
5T. Campbell 28
5T. DJ 28
5T. Kiper 28
8T. Brugler 27
8T. Davis 27
8T. McShay 27
11. Brooks 25

Notes
-Biggest misses were Will Johnson (Brooks) and Sanders (Kiper) at #9.
-Everyone had the first 4 Correct.
-Either Jeanty or Graham went 5th in all mocks.
-If the Eagles and Chiefs had not swapped picks, Zierlein, McShay, Brugler, Walter & Campbell had Simmons going to KC at 31. DJ and Kiper had Campbell going to the Eagles at 32.
You can discount Mel based on his Shedeur man-crush and the WalterFootball guys horrible early-2000's web design and meatball grading system, they were still produced some of the most accurate mock drafts this year.

https://old.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/1k9fi7h/grading_the_experts_2025/?ref=share&ref_source=link
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sooners56

Kiper for the win!!! I'm sure he is still too busy losing it over Sheduer Sanders falling to celebrate this great victory!!! Victory dance 💃 🕺
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Jolly Blue Giant

You know what pissed me off more than anything about the shenanigans of Kiper's (and others) blathering on and on and on about Sanders. Was that ten picks later, the Giants got a big time steal in Marcus Mbow. I knew Mbow was very highly rated and an absolute steal, so I'm waiting for the highlight reels and the talking heads to go "wow...what a great pick" followed with some highlights. Instead, they were still blabbering on about Sanders and completely ignored the Giants' pick as if the only thing that mattered in the entire draft was the question as to why Sanders fell. I couldn't possibly care less why he fell - that's a story for another day. At least have the courtesy of fans around the country who want to know about the player their team just drafted  :angryfire:  :cuss:
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~ Coach Tom Coughlin

MightyGiants

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Crypto Fareez

I don't care what anyone says. Mel Kiper is a legend. He was doing in depth draft analysis before a lot of these analyst were born when no media would touch it. He stuck it through the dark ages and is a big part of why it is what it has become. His track record is actually pretty decent. The Sanders whining was just good tv. They just want clicks. What he said wasn't really relevant. It just underscores the difference between NFL clubs having in depth in person meetings with people and analysts like Kiper who just watch videos. He probably felt embarrassed. There was much more to that slide than a tv draft analyst can be equipped for.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Crypto Fareez on April 29, 2025, 02:33:26 PMI don't care what anyone says. Mel Kiper is a legend. He was doing in depth draft analysis before a lot of these analyst were born when no media would touch it. He stuck it through the dark ages and is a big part of why it is what it has become. His track record is actually pretty decent. The Sanders whining was just good tv. They just want clicks. What he said wasn't really relevant. It just underscores the difference between NFL clubs having in depth in person meetings with people and analysts like Kiper who just watch videos. He probably felt embarrassed. There was much more to that slide than a tv draft analyst can be equipped for.

HOF Bill Polian likes to say those on the outside looking in have about 30% of the information NFL teams have
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Jolly Blue Giant

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 29, 2025, 02:51:13 PMHOF Bill Polian likes to say those on the outside looking in have about 30% of the information NFL teams have

30% is probably generous lol
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Ed Vette

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 29, 2025, 02:26:57 PMInteresting, although I noticed that Kiper and a few other big names are missing
That's just their folks
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

MightyGiants

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 29, 2025, 02:51:13 PMHOF Bill Polian likes to say those on the outside looking in have about 30% of the information NFL teams have


Considering how many projects are skipping all or part of the Combine testing and teams have the GPS data on the players (stuff that was after Polian's time).   I tend to agree
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