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Do you agree with betters expecting the Giants to avg roughly 19.4 ppg?

Started by MightyGiants, June 03, 2025, 01:54:45 PM

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I am biting my fingers to keep from meandering down the back corridors of logic by losing sight of what I already have said about the putative origin of a current 19.4 ppg which requires a potential bettor to decide at that moment which side of that number he or she would be willing to wager. And if such a wager is large enough, it might move the needle so as to require an adjustment to restore balance in the wagering. The one constant is that all bets, all wagers reflect optimism; you don't bet expecting to lose.

So, how might we as Giants fans view the 19.4 ppg in comparison to last season's 16.1 ppg or the recent 5-year average of 17.1 ppg? Modestly at best; perhaps 3 or 4 places higher in the average ppg Offense rankings. UNLESS accompanied by Defense that limited opponents to an average ppg of less than 19.0 which has happened just twice in the past 20 years.

One occurred in 2008, when the team favored to repeat as SB winner, started 11-1 but then lost 3 of it last 4 and its PO game to the Eagles, some would say because Plaxico Burress shot himself and the team in the leg at a most critical moment. Still, it would be hard to argue that it wasn't our best team on both sides of the ball- 25.8 ppg on Offense and 18.6 ppg on Defense during those now 20 years.

The other, of course, was the 2016 McAdoos who gave up just 18.9 ppg, ranking 4th best on Defense to somehow manage an 11-5 record despite a 19.0 ppg, 27th ranked Offense. Please, don't anyone sing me the Defense wins championships anthem as I will otherwise bury that person with a hip hop of "Not so fast, my friend".

All we really know about that season is that Jerry Reese having spent $200 million on the Defense in FA appeared to have succeeded until 2017, which followed next, brought with it a lousy 24.3ppg scoring Defense to match an even worse 15.4 ppg scoring Offense and a 3-13 record. That was, of course, the end for Reese and McAdoo which then brought, "God help us" Gettleman. 

In any event, we now have at our disposal a very valuable lesson which is that something apparently good can conceal and precede something far worse and so, as in the instance of 2022's rare winning season- Schoen/ Daboll's first- it can be a trap. We would do well to see it that way vis a vis Daniel Jones, and to hope that they now have begun to wriggle free of said trap. 

Cheers!