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What does this say about the strength and conditioning program?

Started by MightyGiants, June 13, 2025, 08:47:32 AM

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Wouldn't a quality program have already addressed grip strength for positions that require it?  What does it say about a billion-dollar organization that its players are buying the workout equipment on Amazon?

This is a Q and A with Tyrone Tracey.


Q: What are you doing for ball security? Are you walking around with the ball around the facility, having people kind of poke it out? How have you been addressing that?

A: First of all, it starts on the football field. Every time I'm holding the ball, or I get the ball, whatever it is, making sure I'm carrying it the right way. And then I also bought, I don't know if y'all know what it is, but it's a little grip strengthener off Amazon that I use every night. It just helps me. Also, it just makes sure that I'm being fundamentally sound when I'm holding the ball as well. So again, just take your coaching and the meeting room to the field.
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Philosophers

Quote from: MightyGiants on June 13, 2025, 08:47:32 AMWouldn't a quality program have already addressed grip strength for positions that require it?  What does it say about a billion-dollar organization that its players are buying the workout equipment on Amazon?

This is a Q and A with Tyrone Tracey.


Q: What are you doing for ball security? Are you walking around with the ball around the facility, having people kind of poke it out? How have you been addressing that?

A: First of all, it starts on the football field. Every time I'm holding the ball, or I get the ball, whatever it is, making sure I'm carrying it the right way. And then I also bought, I don't know if y'all know what it is, but it's a little grip strengthener off Amazon that I use every night. It just helps me. Also, it just makes sure that I'm being fundamentally sound when I'm holding the ball as well. So again, just take your coaching and the meeting room to the field.

Strength and conditioning?  How about a position coach telling his unit about the importance of grip strength?  I think it starts there.

ozzie

Well, the Giants have a ridiculous amount of injuries every season, so I'm really not surprised that grip strength has slipped thru the cracks of our S&C coaches. Or that he used Amazon to get what he needed.
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Crypto Fareez

The Giants get all of these 65 year old former players to come in and talk to these 22 year old kids who weren't born when they played so they can get some positive social media short videos running.

Why not do a useful that could actually work with Tom Coughlin and Tyrone Tracy. Makes sense doesn't it?

Trench

Great thread here. We are only in OTAs and we have excessive injuries. How is Skattebo hurt already!!!!Rich has brought this to light for a long time. Our medical and strength/conditioning staff is in dire need of overhaul.

spiderblue43

Quote from: Trench on June 14, 2025, 01:11:35 AMGreat thread here. We are only in OTAs and we have excessive injuries. How is Skattebo hurt already!!!!Rich has brought this to light for a long time. Our medical and strength/conditioning staff is in dire need of overhaul.

Trench Warfare,

Couldn't agree more.

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Not to make another thread about Mara, but this IS about Mara and his loyalty to Ronnie Barnes.
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MightyGiants

Quote from: ralphpal1 on June 14, 2025, 10:37:11 PMHe probably brought it for home

You would think a billion-dollar organization would be providing its players with all the equipment and know-how they need to be in peak physical performance to do their jobs.  The idea of players ordering equipment on Amazon is jarring, at least to me.
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DaveBrown74

How come our beat reporters never show up at Mara pressers with stats on our injury results versus the league average over a large sample size and ask Mara why he refuses to make a change at the head trainer position despite the overwhelming evidence that one is needed?

They're generally not afraid to ask uncomfortable questions (they peppered him about the nepotism in the organization after the 2023 season). I'm not sure why this topic is so untouchable.

At the very least, if they're scared of Mara, they could ask Schoen these questions.

Trench

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on June 15, 2025, 07:47:50 AMHow come our beat reporters never show up at Mara pressers with stats on our injury results versus the league average over a large sample size and ask Mara why he refuses to make a change at the head trainer position despite the overwhelming evidence that one is needed?

They're generally not afraid to ask uncomfortable questions (they peppered him about the nepotism in the organization after the 2023 season). I'm not sure why this topic is so untouchable.

At the very least, if they're scared of Mara, they could ask Schoen these questions.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on June 15, 2025, 07:47:50 AMHow come our beat reporters never show up at Mara pressers with stats on our injury results versus the league average over a large sample size and ask Mara why he refuses to make a change at the head trainer position despite the overwhelming evidence that one is needed?

They're generally not afraid to ask uncomfortable questions (they peppered him about the nepotism in the organization after the 2023 season). I'm not sure why this topic is so untouchable.

At the very least, if they're scared of Mara, they could ask Schoen these questions.

Good question

Philosophers

Quote from: Trench on June 14, 2025, 01:11:35 AMGreat thread here. We are only in OTAs and we have excessive injuries. How is Skattebo hurt already!!!!Rich has brought this to light for a long time. Our medical and strength/conditioning staff is in dire need of overhaul.

We cant stay healthy in something as light as OTAs so we might as well go bowling.  The lack of attention to a real system to prevent injuries even in the lightest training is incredible.


madbadger

I'm sorry but this thread is silly. Do any of you guys lift? Every lift that requires you to pull works on grip strength. In fact they make straps because the weight often pulled far exceeds your hands ability to hold on. If you've gotten to the NFL and your hands lack the requisite strength a whole lot of people have failed even before you step one foot into the Giants training facility, and that clearly includes the player. There's a whole lot to blame the Giants staff for over the past decade. This isn't one of them.

jimc

Quote from: Trench on June 14, 2025, 01:11:35 AMGreat thread here. We are only in OTAs and we have excessive injuries. How is Skattebo hurt already!!!!Rich has brought this to light for a long time. Our medical and strength/conditioning staff is in dire need of overhaul.

Maybe he has a stomach ache?  Ate a bad oyster?
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