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Quote from: Fletch on December 19, 2022, 11:29:41 AMJust going from the early Sunday games which I still contend all the QBs were better --and I don't use QBR -- since all I need is 2 eyes , an objective attitude , and not to mention yards and TDs

Texans / Chiefs
Davis Mills QBR 95.9 ; 2 TDs incidentally
Mahomes QBR 125.7 336 yards; 2 TDs

Steelers / Panthers
Darnold QBR 119.4 225 yards 1 TD
Trubisky 108.9 QBR 179 yards

Jets/Lions
Zak Wilson QBR 99.9 317 yards 2 TDs 1 int
Jared Goff QBR 95 252 yards 1 TD

People use advanced stats for other positions because it is the only way to counter the false narrative that Jones is this good QB who is being held back to his receivers or oline play.

I think you are confusing QBR with Passer Rating.  It is impossible to score higher than 100 on QBR because it is a 0-100 scale. 

Quote from: Fletch on December 19, 2022, 12:22:22 PMSo it looks like NFL.com is using either QBR to be Rating and not actual QBR or just a mistake in general. But whatever ... that just goes to show that no one really cares
Here is an example from the Texans game:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Kansas+City+Chiefs+vs+Houston+Texans+Sunday%2c+December+18%2c+2022&FORM=S00035

It was a lot more fun around here without some xxxx who is trying to prove he's right all the time

Totally out of line, IMO.

Quote from: Fletch on December 19, 2022, 12:22:22 PMSo it looks like NFL.com is using either QBR to be Rating and not actual QBR or just a mistake in general. But whatever ... that just goes to show that no one really cares
Here is an example from the Texans game:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Kansas+City+Chiefs+vs+Houston+Texans+Sunday%2c+December+18%2c+2022&FORM=S00035

It was a lot more fun around here without some xxxx who is trying to prove he's right all the time

Way out of line. You need to cut the xxxx. Final warning.

Sorry.

Banks and Tynes are feeling their oats today

https://twitter.com/lt4kicks/status/1604895307678244864

https://twitter.com/CarlBanksGIII/status/1604713642175365120

1-10 in primetime games now, least he got that off his back with the win.

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 19, 2022, 01:04:21 PMBanks and Tynes are feeling their oats today

https://twitter.com/lt4kicks/status/1604895307678244864

https://twitter.com/CarlBanksGIII/status/1604713642175365120

He had a lot of zip on his passes. He seemed to be more confident.

https://twitter.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1604881710818156544

https://twitter.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1604891638949588993

Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 19, 2022, 01:56:03 PM1-10 in primetime games now, least he got that off his back with the win.

This is what drives me crazy.  Even a great win becomes an occasion to throw shade at DJ.

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/19/phil-simms-david-tryee-believe-daniel-jones-should-be-new-york-giants-qb-2023/

https://twitter.com/PhilSimmsQB/status/1604667261045841920

Quote from: Slugsy-Narrows on December 19, 2022, 05:57:40 PMhttps://giantswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/19/phil-simms-david-tryee-believe-daniel-jones-should-be-new-york-giants-qb-2023/

https://twitter.com/PhilSimmsQB/status/1604667261045841920

He was bashed for years when he was young and he may be sympathetic to Jones and not the best sound board. One thing I see is that the organization wants to support Jones and they have may not have reached out to the alumni to underscore the case for Jones but these guys know where their bread is buttered and want to stay relevant.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on December 19, 2022, 05:19:04 PMThis is what drives me crazy.  Even a great win becomes an occasion to throw shade at DJ.

I was being genuine, he's the only QB In the past 20 years to have that many primetime games without a win. Everyone wanted him to show up in a big game, and so saying he got the monkey off his back is factual. I have said in the game thread and elsewhere that he had a great drive multiple times. However I'm not sure 160 yards and 0 Tds vs a defensive secondary that is giving up the 8th most yards, and 6th best cmp% is something to write home about. Without that one drive he has 70 yards passing for the rest of the game.. 70 yards in 52 minutes but all the former giants are up in arms about how great he was? I just don't get it as he virtually played the exact same game he has all season with the att cmp, and yards.. what other Qb in the NFL is getting praised for a 160 yard game with no Tds.. they don't not even backups.

Per Big Blue View
"Daniel Jones had just 160 yards passing and averaged 5.0 yards per attempt. Per NFL NextGenStats, his average pass was 5.2 yards short of the first down marker and was intended to have 3.7 air yards. His average depth of target ranks in the 2nd percentile dating back to 2010 and his average completion traveled just 3.4 yards downfield in the air".

"Per NFL NextGenStats, just four of Jones' 32 pass attempts were thrown to receivers who were covered"

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/12/19/23516303/2022-week-15-ny-giants-washington-commanders-offense-defense-stats-analytics-analysisYou cannot view this attachment.

DJ also ran for 35 yards in the last game, so we need to include that as well.

His QBR is 57.1 which has him ranked 12th in the entire NFL

His 90.5 RTG is ranked 17th, so he's not that far away from being where he needs to be.

Let's see how this transpires