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Started by Ed Vette, December 14, 2022, 03:00:17 PM

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AZGiantFan

Quote from: Rambo89 on December 27, 2022, 05:26:35 PMHe does sit in the pocket surveying the field but he's so indecisive and can't see things he ends up taking sacks.

See, that's not a fact, it is an opinion, unless you have some way of quantifying that.  But here's another fact.  In addition to there being only 2 QBs who were sacked more, and only 1 QB who was hurried more, there are only 4 QBS who have been knocked down more.
I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist. 

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Rambo89

Quote from: GMenRF on December 27, 2022, 05:23:23 PMLike I said we're all entitled to our own opinion.  Your arguing that Cousins was productive in spite of that team not having a 1K receiver as if he made the players better around him.

My counter argument is that Redskins team had talent to work with for a QB to be productive who was already pretty familiar with the system in place having 3 years to learn it.  It also helped that his OC was McVay who came to be a super bowl winning coach.

And my counter to your counter is that Jones has just as much talent to work with as Cousins did that year.  Sure Morris was a good RB but he was not near the all around threat Barkley is.  Opponents weren't game planning to stop Morris the way the Giants opponents game plan to stop Barkley and make the passing game beat them.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on December 27, 2022, 05:30:39 PMSee, that's not a fact, it is an opinion, unless you have some way of quantifying that.  But here's another fact.  In addition to there being only 2 QBs who were sacked more, and only 1 QB who was hurried more, there are only 4 QBS who have been knocked down more.

It is a fact for those of us who actually watch the games.
"The Giants will never win a championship with Saquon Barkley" 4/26/18

Rosehill Jimmy

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 27, 2022, 05:05:59 PMhttps://twitter.com/BleavNetwork/status/1607850181013151747

As usual I found this to be a great listen. Interesting  that Banks believes DJ is looking at a big payday if for no other reason than the # of teams desperate to upgrade the position. His feeling is DJ will get an offer(s) in the $30m per neighborhood which I'm sure would set the hair on fire of some here, should that team be the Giants
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AP44

Quote from: Rambo89 on December 27, 2022, 05:33:10 PMIt is a fact for those of us who actually watch the games.

Uncalled for post. Should be reported.

GMenRF

Quote from: Rambo89 on December 27, 2022, 05:33:10 PMAnd my counter to your counter is that Jones has just as much talent to work with as Cousins did that year.  Sure Morris was a good RB but he was not near the all around threat Barkley is.  Opponents weren't game planning to stop Morris the way the Giants opponents game plan to stop Barkley and make the passing game beat them.

It is a fact for those of us who actually watch the games.
Yet you ignore the WR group and TE.  Plus the fact that Cousins had the luxury to learn the system for 3 years before becoming the full time starter.

That's stability and structure that Jones does not have the luxury of.  He is in year 1 of a completely new system and philosophy.  Like what Banks said in the video posted earlier.  The team just do not have the luxury having solid pass blocking to take multiple shots down the field.

Rambo89

Quote from: AP44 on December 27, 2022, 05:39:37 PMUncalled for post. Should be reported.

Like making a joke about a President's Assassination?

Please spare us all
"The Giants will never win a championship with Saquon Barkley" 4/26/18

AP44

Quote from: Rambo89 on December 27, 2022, 05:43:09 PMLike making a joke about a President's Assassination?

Please spare us all

I apologized to Mrs Lincoln. Now you apologize Az.


AP44

Quote from: GMenRF on December 27, 2022, 05:40:13 PMYet you ignore the WR group and TE.  Plus the fact that Cousins had the luxury to learn the system for 3 years before becoming the full time starter.

That's stability and structure that Jones does not have the luxury of.  He is in year 1 of a completely new system and philosophy.  Like what Banks said in the video posted earlier.  The team just do not have the luxury having solid pass blocking to take multiple shots down the field.

Good post. You're wasting your breath on him though.

brownelvis54

The KING is in the building

Rambo89

Quote from: AP44 on December 27, 2022, 05:47:33 PMGood post. You're wasting your breath on him though.

LOL and here you go complaining about me then you antagonize this way.  Again spare us you're no angel here.
"The Giants will never win a championship with Saquon Barkley" 4/26/18

kingm56

Quote from: AP44 on December 27, 2022, 05:39:37 PMUncalled for post. Should be reported.

The irony is rich.  If you feel it's reportable, report it and let the mods to their jobs.

It's not a big deal. It's a snarky comment, nothing more. 

AP44

I'll do better. Gotta go rewatch the game...

kingm56

Quote from: AP44 on December 27, 2022, 05:54:49 PMI'll do better. Gotta go rewatch the game...

I envy anyone who has that amount of free time.

AP44

Quote from: kingm56 on December 27, 2022, 05:55:33 PMI envy anyone who has that amount of free time.

I'm getting chemo as we speak. I have some time on my hands.

MightyGiants

Quote from: AP44 on December 27, 2022, 05:56:28 PMI'm getting chemo as we speak. I have some time on my hands.

How are you making out with those issues?
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