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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on November 12, 2023, 03:28:21 PMCJ Stroud doing it again today!
Beating the Bengals in Cinci!!


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Over 2,200 yards, 14 tds, 1 int and a passer rating over 100.

Not bad for a rookie.

Which is why if the Giants choose wisely next April this rebuild gets right back on track. Outside of that one single position the Giants have an equal or perhaps even better roster than the Texans. But the difference in that one position is jarring.

Quote from: Gmo11 on November 12, 2023, 08:19:49 PMWhich is why if the Giants choose wisely next April this rebuild gets right back on track. Outside of that one single position the Giants have an equal or perhaps even better roster than the Texans. But the difference in that one position is jarring.

No they don't. The Texans have good OL, backups or not, and WRs who make plays.

Quote from: JT39 on November 12, 2023, 09:47:03 PMNo they don't. The Texans have good OL, backups or not, and WRs who make plays.

Have you looked at those names? The only reason they're "making plays" is because the QB is getting them the ball. You put Stroud on the Giants and change nothing else and not only is he still an MVP candidate but Hyatt looks like Tyreek Hill or a young OBJ ans Waller looks like Travis Kelce without the Swifties.

Quote from: Gmo11 on November 13, 2023, 03:21:06 AMHave you looked at those names? The only reason they're "making plays" is because the QB is getting them the ball. You put Stroud on the Giants and change nothing else and not only is he still an MVP candidate but Hyatt looks like Tyreek Hill or a young OBJ ans Waller looks like Travis Kelce without the Swifties.

Who cares what the names are - they are blocking and getting open. Two things we don't do.

The overrated ness of Hyatt is getting silly. He's a one route player at this point.

You can't tell what Hyatt is because the team doesn't have a QB capable of getting him the ball. Taylor found a way, but the other QBs cannot. Cartwheels are done over here to avoid blaming the QBs on this team.

Quote from: Dgoodmantrublu on November 13, 2023, 05:48:18 AMYou can't tell what Hyatt is because the team doesn't have a QB capable of getting him the ball. Taylor found a way, but the other QBs cannot. Cartwheels are done over here to avoid blaming the QBs on this team.

This team is miles away from being a competitive outside a QB.

Quote from: JT39 on November 13, 2023, 06:25:43 AMThis team is miles away from being a competitive outside a QB.

They did win 9 games last year. Got a few lucky breaks sure but 9 wins is 9 wins. The difference from that to this year was 1) OL injuries and 2) Jones reverting back to his old terrible performances. Stroud on this team wins 9 games easy and maybe more.

Quote from: JT39 on November 13, 2023, 06:25:43 AMThis team is miles away from being a competitive outside a QB.

The same sentiments were uttered about the 3-13-1 Texans last year...

Quote from: kingm56 on November 13, 2023, 06:34:32 AMThe same sentiments were uttered about the 3-13-1 Texans last year...

Quote from: Gmo11 on November 13, 2023, 06:34:18 AMThey did win 9 games last year. Got a few lucky breaks sure but 9 wins is 9 wins. The difference from that to this year was 1) OL injuries and 2) Jones reverting back to his old terrible performances. Stroud on this team wins 9 games easy and maybe more.

And the coaching sucks this year. The defense is terrible. And our draft choices have been below average. The players who led us on offense last year should not be back next year.

We need a QB
Three OL
A RB
And at least 2 WRs. One in which is actually dominant.

Quote from: kingm56 on November 13, 2023, 06:34:32 AMThe same sentiments were uttered about the 3-13-1 Texans last year...

Yup.

I wonder how people thought about the Bengals the year before they got Burrow or the Jags the year before they got Lawrence. Etc etc. And those are not franchises that have won two Super Bowls since 2006.

Last year fans were petrified about Kafka getting poached by another team and were beyond thankful when he didn't. This year they want his head on a spit. Same range of emotions with Daboll. Fans live in the moment and are, for the most part, highly short-term emotional and reactionary. The hope is that the owner and GM of your team aren't also like that, because you can't run an NFL team (or any large organization) that way.

And btw the above does not mean I'm saying there should be no changes made to the team. In no way do I feel that way. But this "fire every single person involved with the coaching staff and front office" and "we're going to suck for at least 10 years" type of mentality, while an understandable reaction after losses like yesterday and the week before, is one of hyperbole.

CJ Stroud is incredible. Anyone who can't see how he has transformed Houston is kidding themselves.

https://x.com/allday_ajking/status/1723912095987638689?t=426p5rBqrRzuNn2sNN7djw&s=09

Does anyone think Stroud would have made a difference in this team yesterday?

Quote from: Ed Vette on November 13, 2023, 09:19:06 AMDoes anyone think Stroud would have made a difference in this team yesterday?

This isn't the question to ask. The question is what would this team look like right now had you replaced Daniel Jones with CJ Stroud in April. Is this team 2-8 right now with the worst offense in football.

Stroud is making Noah Brown look like Tyreek Hill. Imagine what Stroud could do with a guy like Jalin Hyatt over a full season.

Quote from: JT39 on November 13, 2023, 06:25:43 AMThis team is miles away from being a competitive outside a QB.

They were competitive last year with a QB who is likely to be replaced due to not being good enough, so I'm not sure I agree with this.