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Giants VS Saints game thread

Started by MightyGiants, December 17, 2023, 12:49:19 PM

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Fletch

Quote from: Woody on December 17, 2023, 03:24:43 PMMaybe if he was playing Giants D with the Saints o line


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So QBs are basically interchangeable? All that matters is the defense they are playing and their oline? You cannot accept the fact a guy who is a 4x pro bowler and has gotten MVP votes is just a better QB?

DaveBrown74

Quote from: Fletch on December 17, 2023, 03:28:02 PMHow did anybody do against them? They have to be one of the top offenses in the NFL.

Ok, so our D is capable of playing well against the absolute worst offenses in the league but not against good ones like Dallas or even mediocre ones like the Saints.

Got it.

brownelvis54

We need a 13 yard plus pass.... and we throw a 4 yard pass.
The KING is in the building

katkavage

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 17, 2023, 03:28:37 PMExactly. Carr is the definition of average.
If Carr is average and I don't agree but if he is that's a stinging criticism of the QBs of the Giants. Who aren't close to having Carr's ability.

Trench

That was Devito's worst series in awhile. Throws were off he had several guys open.

DaveBrown74

Quote from: killarich on December 17, 2023, 03:30:21 PMBarkley is finished as an elite receiver

He better take that 6 mil a year contract and stfu

I would prefer he reject it and we instead draft a fresh-legged, explosive 21 year old with no injury history who will be under contract with us for four years at $1.5-$2.0 mm a year. Let someone else give him the $10mm a year and significant guarantee he is going to demand. 

Woody

Quote from: Fletch on December 17, 2023, 03:30:31 PMSo QBs are basically interchangeable? All that matters is the defense they are playing and their oline? You cannot accept the fact a guy who is a 4x pro bowler and has gotten MVP votes is just a better QB?
Better when he has time for sure.    Why is he still not a Raider.
Definetly better than Tommy for sure but ...he has all day in pocket.  That helps any QB


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killarich

This will put us back in the qb hunt

But idk man .... I think O-line is most important then a legit threat at wr


brownelvis54

:hmm:

But someone said Devito was underrated
The KING is in the building

DaveBrown74

Quote from: Trench on December 17, 2023, 03:32:39 PMThat was Devito's worst series in awhile. Throws were off he had several guys open.

DeVito has not had a good game. I don't think there is any other way to say it. Nobody on the offense played well, so he is not the only one, but he simply didn't play well today. Hopefully he's better next week. We'll need him to be if we are going to have any sort of shot of even being vaguely competitive in the next game.

Trench

Extremely disappointed with Dabol and Kafka today. Barely tried to get Hyatt involved and the play before half to not try to score was awful.

brownelvis54

Quote from: killarich on December 17, 2023, 03:34:02 PMThis will put us back in the qb hunt

But idk man .... I think O-line is most important then a legit threat at wr




If somehow one of the top three quarterbacks in the upcoming draft slide to us, I would call every hungry team that's desperate for a quarterback and trade a kings Ransom in draft picks to help build our team
The KING is in the building

Woody

Carr has really stunk it up a few times this year


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TONKA56

Quote from: brownelvis54 on December 17, 2023, 03:28:06 PMIt's pissing me off, too. Why are we so afraid to throw down field? Are we scared? They'll be an interception what do we have to lose?
The coverage has been tight. There hasn't been much time to throw deep and on the few occasions when there were opportunities the receivers couldn't catch the ball. This team can't maintain pass protection long enough to execute a basic three step drop without the threat of a running attack.

Stringer Bell

Quote from: katkavage on December 17, 2023, 03:32:17 PMIf Carr is average and I don't agree but if he is that's a stinging criticism of the QBs of the Giants. Who aren't close to having Carr's ability.

Coming into today, through 13 games, Carr had 13 TDs and 7 INTs, with a QB rating under 90.

Just looking at the standings quick, I count 15 QBs I'd take over Carr, which puts him exactly at the middle of the league. Again, the definition of average.