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As I mentioned yesterday, the Giants still need another veteran RB


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I like the idea of RB by committee ... but I kind of hope Grey doesn't get buried again

Earth, WInd and Fire would be great

Dillon and Singletary would be a nice one-two punch.

Quote from: killarich on March 13, 2024, 09:44:26 AMI like the idea of RB by committee ... but I kind of hope Grey doesn't get buried again

Earth, WInd and Fire would be great

That was one of the advantages of moving on from Barkley.  The work horse RB is an antiquated concept in today's NFL.  A pair of RBs provides the same production while providing protection from the inevitable injury issues.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 13, 2024, 09:47:04 AMThat was one of the advantages of moving on from Barkley.  The work horse RB is an antiquated concept in today's NFL.  A pair of RBs provides the same production while providing protection from the inevitable injury issues.

This is true, especially when your workhorse is often injured you feel the drop off in a major way when he does not play

Grey doesn't have enough speed so he'd better hit the weight room.

I just have to get this off my chest. I don't disagree with resisting the urge to over pay.

However I get the feeling that they are undervaluing this position so that no matter the QB (assuming a young player we're building around) without a solid run game, they're going to get killed!


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Quote from: MightyGiants on March 13, 2024, 09:47:04 AMThat was one of the advantages of moving on from Barkley.  The work horse RB is an antiquated concept in today's NFL.  A pair of RBs provides the same production while providing protection from the inevitable injury issues.

I agree with the concept and I'm glad we're moving this way....but I do think the "RB by committee" idea is more myth than reality across the NFL.  I looked at this a bit last year and was surprised to find that the vast majority of successful teams have a clear lead back that dominates the touches (Pacheco, McCaffrey, Mixon, Pollard, Swift, Cook, Etienne, etc.).  And other teams likely would have done the same if not for injury (JK Dobbins comes to mind).  I think if you were to dig into the stats you'd find the same.

Teams need an effective running game to be successful.  I prefer the committee format as well to provide alternatives and take injury stress off an individual player.  I'd like to see us get a speed back via the draft.

Why not bring Breida back ?

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 13, 2024, 10:29:34 AMWhy not bring Breida back ?

I just threw up in my mouth. Lol

I'd like a bruising N/S RB or a FB hybrid.

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on March 13, 2024, 09:45:06 AMDillon and Singletary would be a nice one-two punch.

Bing!

Quote from: PSUBeirut on March 13, 2024, 09:55:48 AMI agree with the concept and I'm glad we're moving this way....but I do think the "RB by committee" idea is more myth than reality across the NFL.  I looked at this a bit last year and was surprised to find that the vast majority of successful teams have a clear lead back that dominates the touches (Pacheco, McCaffrey, Mixon, Pollard, Swift, Cook, Etienne, etc.).  And other teams likely would have done the same if not for injury (JK Dobbins comes to mind).  I think if you were to dig into the stats you'd find the same.

Pacheco - 14.6 carries per game
CMC - 17 carries per game
Mixon - 15.1 carries per game
Pollard - 14.8 carries per game
Swift - 14.3 carries per game
Ettiene - 15.7 carries per game

Devin Singletary - 12.7 carries per game (only 10 starts)

Fair point but I think "lead back" or "workhorse" implies way more than 15 carries a game.  Simple reality is that in today's NFL, unlike 20 years ago, your featured back is gonna average between 12-15 carries per game.

Did anyone not see how Dillon flopped when Jones was out and was banished to the bench when Jones returned from injury? AJ Dillon sucks period. Hard pass.

Quote from: zephirus on March 13, 2024, 11:06:08 AMPacheco - 14.6 carries per game
CMC - 17 carries per game
Mixon - 15.1 carries per game
Pollard - 14.8 carries per game
Swift - 14.3 carries per game
Ettiene - 15.7 carries per game

Devin Singletary - 12.7 carries per game (only 10 starts)

Fair point but I think "lead back" or "workhorse" implies way more than 15 carries a game.  Simple reality is that in today's NFL, unlike 20 years ago, your featured back is gonna average between 12-15 carries per game.

The game has certainly changed and the "workhorse" label is likely toast forever.  Averaging 20+ carries a game would be shocking in today's NFL.

But go back and look at the average carries/game of the 2nd highest RB on all those teams/examples.  I think you'll find it hard to make the argument any of them run a "committee" approach- at least as I think most people use the term (ie, splitting carries fairly evenly to keep the other guy(s) fresh).